Ok where do I start... Elitist vision? Well I'm not even going to comment on that one, not worth the typing effort...
I hear a lot of "What I need is..."... It's your job to convince your managers, not Cake's... As a developer *YOU* need to assess the tools you'll be using and then go to your managers with a proposal... Since when are the tools expected to convince managers for you? CakePHP, and let's all start understanding it (those who haven't yet): IS A FRAMEWORK. It's not a company that will be doing the job for you, it's something that will help you get things done faster, and better. It won't convince your managers, nor it will magically build an application for you if you haven't put any effort into it. You can use CakePHP to build crap (trust me, I have seen a lot of crappy code written with CakePHP) but that doesn't mean CakePHP is crap. If used correctly, it will improve your coding skills, and leverage your productivity. Period. -MI --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Remember, smart coders answer ten questions for every question they ask. So be smart, be cool, and share your knowledge. BAKE ON! blog: http://www.MarianoIglesias.com.ar -----Mensaje original----- De: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] En nombre de Olivier Percebois-Garve Enviado el: Miércoles, 28 de Marzo de 2007 08:24 p.m. Para: [email protected] Asunto: Re: Proposal for "killer app" @Mariano Sorry but I do not share your elitist vision. Cakephp is making its best to reach new markets and to be used by the masses. Also I am rather considering the question of easing the processes in a team work, where we have various peoples with various skills. Most of our projects are starting small and growing later. We have a lot of legacy apps to manage and what we are producing will be managed by other peoples. We need to make the work easy for them, not require them to be super-geniouses to understand the mess we have produced. Sorry but I wont convince my managers by using your joda talk. :-) I just need something easy for them. The benefits are for me but I need to polish the caveats. Implementation speed in the early stages is one. CMSes seem faster to implement and therfore less costly for the agency. And they often claim to be usables as framworks. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Cake PHP" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
