> We have our own ORM layer rather than using another one like Propel.
> Among other advantages, this allows CakePHP to innovate on its own.

technically cake's datalayer is not ORM.  it doesn't work with objects
(at least not in the way ORM's do).  I know this is on the roadmap for
2.0 or whatever, but right now the data abstraction layer is less
functional then an ORM solution like propel.

I don't want cake to look bad because i certainly don't think it's
bad, i think it's good, i use it for several projects.  But i think we
should be honest with ourselves.  Cake certainly has it's advantages
over other frameworks but it's not like it is better on *everything*

PS: i don't like the "metadata hell" (overuse of configuration files,
especially in xml format) either.


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