On May 11, 2007, at 1:42 PM, Chris Hartjes wrote:

>
> On 5/11/07, John David Anderson (_psychic_) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
> wrote:
>>
>> It has nothing to do with frameworks and everything to do with
>> community. Sure, the code itself rocks - but these polls are a fun
>> way to see how awesome the community response is. If you don't want
>> to participate, that's fine. I don't think it's a license to rain on
>> the parade, though.
>
> I wasn't aware I needed a license to rain on this parade.  I should
> check local bylaws. :)

Yeah I think it's illegal to have those kids on your lawn too. :)

> John, you do have a point in that it shows community response, but I
> wouldn't take too much stock in the results.  After all, you could
> just as easily say "all those people voting for CakePHP are fanboys so
> you should take the results with a grain of salt".

This has nothing to do with results, and everything about having a  
good time and joking around. Sometimes we do things for fun, not  
results. Besides, the metric I'm using is from a community  
perspective, not from an outsider's view. I don't really care if  
polls bring new users (though its a nice side effect) - but a poll  
being rocked every month or so is a nice way to keep a pulse on who's  
active and how much they like us.

> I stick by my statement about people's decision making skills, though.
>  I'm a battle-scarred veteran of other people's poorly-thought-out
> decisions, often made based on how high on google the home page was
> ranked.

Well I don't think we're garnering support for vaporware here. SEOmoz  
doesn't seem to think so, anyway. Again, this isn't about bringing  
people in.

> The CakePHP community is a good one, and I'm starting to think that
> the real problem is a lack of organized, relevant documentation.

Before we move forward, I'd like to look back. First, I need to get a  
handle on the specifics that allow you to make that conclusion (on  
another thread, preferably). Once we fix what we've got, we'll worry  
about new ideas.

-- John

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