On 7/10/07, MrKrinkle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Of course, you won't ever share your framework so I'll have to take
> > your word for it that it would "overtake the way you write web
> > applicaitons".
>
> What the HELL are you basing any of those statements on?

You said you wouldn't release your framework as open source, didn't you"

"I could (and may) release my framework open source, but truly, I'm not
interested in running an open source php framework project. (I have
other ideas for open source projects that I'd like to do, but a php
framework doesn't interest me.) Sadly, since most frameworks don't
serve the example I gave in this thread, maybe I have no choice."

That's what I'm basing it on.  Sounds to me like you won't do it.

> > "It's not just lost on framework developers, it's lost on MOST web 
> > developers."
>
> On what do you base that?

I base that on my experiences developing web applications for a long
time.  Your approach is a very interesting one, and not one that most
developers are familiar with.   I'm sure it works really well.  I
don't know why you seem to think that I don't think it would work.

> >Of course, you won't ever share your framework so I'll have to take
> >your word for it that it would "overtake the way you write web
> >applicaitons".
>
> On what do you base that?

I base it on the idea that I would have a very hard time understanding
how what you are talking about would work without seeing some actual
code that makes it happen.  I'm getting the sense that you are taking
something very personally that wasn't meant to be so personal.  I'm
the type of guy who needs to see some working code to understand it.

>
> I had reflexive respect for you but it's just been lost by your strict
> assumptions from out of nowhere.

Um, okay.  See what I wrote above.  You don't have to respect me.  I'm
not hurt or anything.

>
> I'm saddened by your lack of imagination. When you read my original
> post, you really can't imagine a framework that handles namespaces the
> way I describe.  And you're a "senior" cakePHP developer?  At least I
> know what framework to avoid.

See, now you're just trying to be mean instead of civil.  What you
call lack of imagination I call "I'd like to see it work before I
totally dismiss it".  Honest.  If you go back and read what I said, I
do believe I said that what you describe would be very hard to
retrofit into CakePHP.

I believe that what you are talking about is very interesting.  I'd
love to see some code that illustrates how it would work.  Namespaces
solve a lot of complicated problems (they are coming to PHP 6
according to what I've read lately), and yours is one of them.

Wow, maybe the hot weather is making people cranky or something
because I do believe that I said your idea is very interesting, and
non-conventional based on my own experiences and I would love to see
code for it.


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Chris Hartjes
Senior Developer
Cake Development Corporation

My motto for 2007:  "Just build it, damnit!"

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