it's true i don't respect the conventions all the time, because in
some cases this can bring significant speed gains (necessary on
heavily accessed sites).
however, if you're kind enough to share, i would like to know 'the
cake way' for this: i have to show on one page different kind of
information ( totally unrelated ) - so i think i can't use only one
controller (or maybe i'm mistaking), and on top of that, i want
something that is called only once at the top of the page to perform
several actions (log/set variables etc).

thanks for your patience,
Cristian

On Nov 2, 11:56 pm, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Sounds like you're not doing it the cake way.
>
> If you really really want to do that, your best bet is to use
> loadModel. To be honest, what you're doing doesn't really fit the
> cake, or MVC model particularly well, so if I were you I would look at
> elements as an alternative to all the requestActions.
>
> If you stick to Cake's conventions based approach, your best bet is
> still to do the work in app_controller, or a component.
>
> Simon
>
> On Nov 2, 9:43 pm, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
>
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > If I write that in the startup function of the component it will be
> > called for the every controller in a page (which is not good because I
> > use 'requestAction' a lot so startup will be called more than once).
> > What I was actually thinking is to create my own class and call the
> > initialization somewhere in bootstrap, but i don't know how to use a
> > model by itself in a custom class.
>
> > On Nov 2, 2:43 pm, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
>
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > What you probably want to do is write a component and handle your
> > > logging in the startup function.
>
> > > You probably also want to be using the component to inform the
> > > controller as to layout / views to use for the skinning. Depending on
> > > your controllers, there are all sorts of ways you could do this,
> > > ranging from $controller->layout = 'skin' in component startup to a
> > > beforeRender filter.
>
> > > To get access to the db tables in your component, you'll have to use
> > > loadModel to grab instances for the logging and prefs etc.
>
> > > Pages controller is something totally different. It is a simple
> > > controller to just display views from the /app/views/pages directory
> > > without the hastle of creating actions. Essentially it is for static
> > > content. However, it could be informed by your component to change the
> > > layout (skin) around static content and to log user progress if you
> > > add your component to AppController in /app/app_controller.php.
>
> > > Hope that helps.
>
> > > Simon
>
> > > On Nov 2, 12:30 pm, Cristian Vrabie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > > hi everybody,
> > > > i'm new to phpcake organization model and i'm having some problems
> > > > integrating some classes. maybe you can give me a hand.
>
> > > > i need a "visitor" class that will be responsible with tracking a site
> > > > 'visitor' (not a user), keep a track and use his settings (like language
> > > > and skin preferences) via cookies and similar stuff. the thing with this
> > > > is: i don't know if this should be a controller or a component. i would
> > > > say it's a controller because it hase it's own models (like log tables,
> > > > preferences table, etc), but then, it has no view and must be called
> > > > (initialized) on every page before everything else, and be accesible
> > > > from any other controller.
>
> > > > what should i do? i saw a page_controller somewhere and i think i can
> > > > use that but i'm not sure how?
>
> > > > what do you sugest. i'm sure this is a preaty common practice. what do
> > > > you use?
>
> > > > thanks,
> > > > Cristian


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