Big changes, yes. Removal of key features??? What's that about?

For me, a web framework is about getting things done. This is just another
hurdle in the way of that....oh well.

On Sat, Feb 23, 2008 at 7:40 AM, red <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
> Just about scaffolding - they did not removed the generator.
> Check this:
> http://wiki.rubyonrails.org/rails/pages/Scaffold
>
> Anyway changes in RoR 2.0 are big, but look at Cake 1.2 - some
> tutorials from 1.1 also won't work. Every software sometimes get 'big
> changes'.
>
>
>
> On 23 Lut, 12:43, Baz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hey all,
> >
> > After much pressure from some of my peers and colleagues, I've decided
> to
> > take a Ride on the Ruby on Rails train and see where it leads. The
> stupid
> > train didn't get out of the station, that's where it leads.
> >
> > I was drawn to RoR for a number of reasons:
> >
> >    1. Been hearing about it for ages.
> >    2. It's more "established"
> >    3. There are a MILLION plugins out there for it. And they are a
> breeze
> >    to "install".
> >    4. The console does a lot of generation (at least it used to)
> >    5. Got the Agile Web Dev. boo, and wanted to play with it.
> >    6. There's an IDE (RadRails) that ties into the console and the
> server
> >    and everything. Debugging is a breeze, nothing to install or
> configure, just
> >    a few clicks. You could do all your "raking" straight from the IDE.
> It's
> >    shiny :D
> >
> > I was just trying to go through one of the basic tutorials in the book.
> > After which, I would attempt to port some of my smaller CakePHP apps. To
> > make a long story short....the brilliant guys decided for the 2.0release,
> > they would remove scaffold generation (the equivalent of baking).
> >
> > Now there are all these fancy database migrations, etc, etc. And I'm
> sure
> > they serve a very good purpose, but who gives a crap. I was already
> dreading
> > the "interesting" syntax of Ruby, now they're telling me I need to
> basically
> > write out my entire database structure into this "migration format" crap
> for
> > EVERY TABLE?
> >
> > I mean, it's not hard, but I just don't wanna do it. What's the point of
> all
> > those graphical database editors if I gotta go "generate model Post ...
> and
> > a whole bunch of fields and definitions"? And it's not even SQL. So
> that's
> > one thing I would have to learn before even being able to get started
> > really.
> >
> > It was also interesting how ALL the tutorials referenced the old method
> of
> > scaffolding. There was always a note at the top/bottom of the tut.
> saying
> > "this may not work in 2.0", but they never said what exactly.
> >
> > I must say, I'm greatly disappointed. I'm still baffled actually. By all
> > reports, RoR seemed to be highly automated, now they just pulled out a
> huge
> > chunk of it. I'm sorry, if CakePHP ever pulled out the "bake" console,
> I'd
> > have to shoot myself in the head.
> >
> > I should have known better. Fate brought me to CakePHP for reason. With
> all
> > it's quirks, this is the most productive I've been.
> >
> > Sorry for the rant.
> >
>

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