Hi.

I'm about to try and write a bit of code that, based on data from one
form, will insert some of the form's data into a record in one model,
and the rest into a related record in another model.

Before you point me at these threads:
http://groups.google.co.uk/group/cake-php/browse_thread/thread/16bb0c2aedb1cb52/bfc625acd4d5b35b
http://groups.google.co.uk/group/cake-php/browse_thread/thread/753022a670fd82e6/
http://groups.google.co.uk/group/cake-php/browse_thread/thread/226e6aa1b443fe39/

...I should point out that the key word here is inserting, not
updating. What I see as a potential problem is if the first model gets
its new record OK, it gets a new insert ID just fine, the system tries
to insert a record into the related model with that new ID for its
foreign key... and that model's part of the form doesn't validate for
some reason (say, a duplicate slug for example). It would throw up an
error, the user would submit the form again, and then the code would
try to insert the first record into the first model again (that would
definitely cause a duplicate slug), causing another error.

Is there a way around this, while sticking with a single form? Can I
check if the second model's data would hypothetically validate without
actually saving it into the database, before inserting the first
model's data?

I've had another look at the old manual:
http://web.archive.org/web/20070823102844/http://manual.cakephp.org/chapter/models
http://web.archive.org/web/20070812214744/manual.cakephp.org/chapter/validation

...but I can't seem to find anything about validating (as in checking
all the validation rules and trying my beforeValidate code) without
saving. It sounds like something that would probably exist, but I
can't find a reference to it.

(Sorry about the long winded way of asking the question, but often
when I explain what I'm trying to do overall, someone will point out a
much simpler way of doing it without having to try to do the specific
thing I'm asking about.)

Thank you all very much,
Zoe.
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