On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 8:50 PM, Jason Carlson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Here this feature was requested by a couple of folks.  The developer "nate"
> responds to the first requester by saying this is definitely not the
> direction they want to take CakePHP in but gives no other reason why.  The
> second requester sees what I see in that it doesn't look like they think it
> is important so he re-opens it mentioning that it is important enough that
> ZF supports this.  The same developer not only shuts it down but minimizes
> it to trivial and warns the guy about ever mentioning ZF.  I've not looked
> at ZF personally but is it not open source and if there are good ideas in it
> is it not okay to adopt them, after all isn't CakePHP isn't original but
> based strongly on Ruby on Rails from what I understand.

Well, *asking* for a feature is different from *implementing* a
feature.  Perhaps Nate was a little brusque, but people need to accept
that from time to time, the people who do the coding might disagree
with other people's ideas.

I have no idea how ZF has implemented multi-column primary indexes as
keys in their database abstraction layer, but I don't think that's
really the issue.  Just because ZF has it does not automatically mean
that CakePHP should have it too.  I suspect that your guess about the
amount of work needed vs. the benefits gained is probably the best
reason.

As for the ZF comment, I don't think that Nate really meant "thou
shalt not mention ZF ever more".  It was more along the lines of
"complaining that ZF has something that CakePHP doesn't isn't the best
way to motivate me".

> With what is posted however, I hope you can understand why as a newbie to
> CakePHP I have my concerns.

I think you should judge CakePHP on how it actually works, instead of
how the developers who create it comment on tickets.  That ticket is
very old (we're up into the high 4000's for tickets now) so maybe
enough changes have been made to the Model classes that this could be
implemented in the future.  If you really want to take the bull by the
horns, create a ticket on trac.cakephp.org asking that this be
reopened again.  The worst thing that is going to happen is that they
will reject the ticket.  And again, you should never take it
personally when a ticket is rejected, no matter what it says in the
comments.

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