> The goal of my post was not to discredit your argument or you as you
> suggest multiple times (ad hominem argument).

I wasn't saying that you tried to discredit me, but to argument in
favor of migration with

> Migrations have a reputable body or work behind them

seems like an ad hominem argument to me.

>  I thought you wrote a
> well thought out argument in favor of using Cake's built in Schema
> which I stated in my post.  I will continue to argue that your
> provided workflow and associated argument are the essential points in
> favor of Schema when people are looking for justification about it.

Well, I've just wanted to share my experience with both, migrations
and cake schema (something I found to be very different from the
things in the java world you mention, but I'm not a java programmer).
For me, cake schema worked better than migrations in my working
enviroment, with the tools I've been using.

> I would, however, suggest you read through the articles that I posted
> as some of the things you noted in your line-by-line commentary are
> addressed by people far more qualified to comment than I.  When
> writing about the differences I did due dilligence to understand the
> benefits of cakePHP's built in Schema tool.  I even looked for outside
> commentary about it and as far as I could tell it is something that
> has some similarities from practices in the Java world.

I've read them, but it didn't answer what Joel is adressing here:

http://developingwithstyle.com/2008/05/05/the-problem-with-migrations/

and what happens when two or more migrations conflicts.


>  So far, you
> are the definitive voice on the subject in the CakePHP world!

I've didn't noticed it, isn't anyone else using the Cake schema shell?
If that is the case, they are missing a great tool.


As a final note, while re reading what I've wrote I've noticed that it
was too bad spelled and worded (actually it seems like I'm writing
using my elbows) sorry for that. Also, I didn't want to sound too
hash, but in the final result the was tone too grumpy (maybe I'm
reading this list too much, jaja).

Cheers,
- Dardo Sordi.

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