On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 4:56 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> The problem is that it's the same even if debug is off .
> The difference is smaller but Cake 1.1 seems faster than Cake 1.2
>

Ah, you crazy kids and your concerns about the speed of Cake.  Back in
my day, we looked at all factors of an application before we started
blaming the code, since the database would inevitably be the
bottleneck unless we had written really shitty code or were actually
doing computationally-intensive work.

I think the additional features of 1.2 are what make it worth
upgrading from 1.1, and I hate to burst anyone's ego but I doubt your
application will get so much traffic that any alleged speed decrease
from Cake 1.2 will make a difference.  Good coding practices go a long
way towards ensuring application speed.

Performance testing and benchmarking is an art in itself and unless
you use tools specifically dedicated towards those  ends (like Xdebug
or Apache Benchmark or Siege ) you are just making shit up.

Have I used these tools on Cake?  No.  Why? Because I don't care about
CakePHP's speed.  For 99.999% of those who use CakePHP, it is
MTFEIYFTR (More Than Fast Enough If You Follow The Rules).  For the
other .001%, either change your code or go with a non-Cake solution.

This is the "Twitter sucks because of Rails" fallacy.  Twitter sucks
because they built a messaging system using tools for building a
content management system.

So, to get back to your initial question from the beginning of the thread:

Upgrade to 1.2 because it is light-years ahead of 1.1 in available features.

Now get off my lawn!

-- 
Chris Hartjes
Internet Loudmouth
Motto for 2008: "Moving from herding elephants to handling snakes..."
@TheKeyBoard: http://www.littlehart.net/atthekeyboard

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