.. and cake hello world application memory usage is 5 Mb.
So when you put few things more (model recursive instances) you must
fight to be below PHP4 default 8Mb.
(For exmpl. CI has 1.2 Mb.)
(persistModel and which  caches class registry use even more memory)
(profiling cake I can see around 2000- 3000 calls to PHP's strtolower
etc.)



On Aug 28, 5:48 pm, Nate <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> @kiang: That's a great idea.  I think a more general performance-
> tuning guide would really help out.  I know there are some resources
> on this, but I think a comprehensive guide in the Cookbook somewhere
> would be great.  I'll see what we can do about this.
>
> On Aug 28, 11:11 am, kiang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Maybe there could be one page like 'Read first before benchmarking' in
> > home page since there exists many mis-understandings around the
> > world. :)
>
> > ---
> > kiang
>
> > On Aug 28, 10:41 pm, Gwoo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > One thing we know for sure is that we can always work to improve the
> > > speed. However, we will not do it in earnest until the time is right.
> > > We have been here before, seen similar things, and come up with the
> > > answers.
>
> > > While the hello world is pretty silly, a couple of things strike me
> > > right off the bat. For one, var $helpers = array() will still load 3
> > > files, while setting it to null will stop all loading. So, in a lot of
> > > ways Cake shows up slower because it does more from the start. The
> > > other major place is the session handling. We have no idea what his
> > > settings were in this regard.
>
> > > In any case, now that we are deeper into the RC cycle you will see in
> > > the timeline many efforts to improve and optimize the responsiveness
> > > of the framework. If you would like the historical perspective have a
> > > look at what happened in 1.1 between the 1.1.13 and 1.1.17 releases.
> > > We have a history of squeezing speed out of this language and
> > > framework and we prepared to do it again.
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