Graham,
Thanks for the response; however, that did not fix the situation.

I know the session is dead because when I look at the login area it
tells me to log in. The strange thing is that when i go to a different
page the session is alive again. It seems that the session just
temporarily goes away whenever I include the phpThumb and swfupload
components. I don't know why it would even happen with phpThumb. (yea
I remove all components, and the session is alive. Leaving only
swfupload or thumb will kill it, and yes normal components and other
components do work. my captcha component works fine).

I may try to use an iframe and just pass all the information into it,
but that is causing more problems for sure. Plus it is rather hackish.
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