Forgot to add: Basically outside of Komodo and various java-based apps, I don't think there is a php-friendly *free* IDE for OS X. Would love to be proved wrong!
Pete On Jan 24, 4:50 pm, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote: > This discussion is covering both editors (like TextMate) to IDEs (like > Eclipse, Komodo and emacs). > > Nothing wrong with that of course, but the two kinds of software tend > to have quite different goals. > > If what you really want a project-wide features like code > introspection, debugging and completion, then an IDE is the way to > go. As rogwei mentioned, the project management side of the more > heavywight IDEs like eclipse is painful if you're no used to it - and > by the same token, everything can feel bare naked in TextMate if you > are used to an IDE. > > There is one app that's somewhere between an Editor and an IDE that > hasn't been mentioned, it's not free, called skEdit: > > http://skti.org/skedit/ > > skEdit is pure os x software - so it doesn't suffer from the java-ness > of eclipse, and it looks a bit like Textmate too, but the project > management is all baked in and doesn't need any plugins (same with SVN > support). I don't think it's as awesome as TextMate, but if TM leaves > you feeling like you're wearing the emporer's new clothes it might be > the one for you. I must admit I wasn't overly impressed with it's > Code Completion in a CakePHP project, since it doesn't seem to inspect > your classes, but for that level you'd really have to go for eclipse. > > By the way - on an eclipse tip, if you have a fairly serious chunk of > cash lying around, you might try Zend Studio, which is built on top of > it. Studio's PHP debugging is, in my experience, peerless; not only > can you set breakpoints and step through your code you can even step > *backward*. > > http://www.zend.com/products/studio/ > > If you really REALLY want free, then have a look at TextWrangler, from > the BBEdit folks: > > http://www.barebones.com/products/TextWrangler/ > > And also Smultron from Tuppis > > http://tuppis.com/smultron/ > > If you want to try emacs but don't like Terminal.app, try Xemacs: > > http://www.xemacs.org/ > > Or, if you're more a Vi kind of guy, there is also MacVim: > > http://code.google.com/p/macvim/ > > (there's an older macvim.org site, but that isn't maintained any more) > > Phew! That was more than I had planned on writing :) > > Pete > > On Jan 24, 1:53 pm, hellfish <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Coda really rocks, I've been using the demo version and I'm seriously > > thinking about purchasing the complete version. > > > On Jan 24, 12:31 pm, rogwei <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Emacs is the bomb. Free, cross-platform, extendable, and butters your > > > toast. I have been pleasantly surprised to find that several other Mac > > > applications respond to the same cursor movement keyboard shortcuts. > > > It's like...ahhhhhhhh > > > > I too tried Eclipse and NetBeans and found them seriously flawed (on > > > the Mac platform at least) and I am using state of the art quad core > > > intel hardware. My beefs were not so much with performance, duh, but > > > with the heavy handed project paradigm in Eclipse and the bugginess of > > > NetBeans code completion. Both were show stoppers for me. > > > > Emacs is included in Leopard through the Terminal application, but you > > > might want to set up MacPorts and install the X version. There is a > > > PHP mode for Emacs, also available through MacPorts, that provides > > > some useful features for PHP development. > > > > On Jan 23, 6:01 am, leo <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Having spent months trying to find an adequate editor for Windows, I > > > > eventually settled on Komodo. Now I'm working on a Mac and Komodo is > > > > available, but version 5 is so slow it's unusable. I reverted to v4, > > > > but while it is a little quicker it is also a little unstable. It is > > > > still slow enough to be irritating - 2 seconds to switch tabs; > > > > sometimes it doesn't load the plugins, sometimes it will not maximise > > > > properly. > > > > > Okay, I'm not using a cutting edge Intel Mac, I'm on a G4 / Leopard, > > > > but it's still a reasonably powerful machine (it'll run Photoshop and > > > > Illustrator simultaneously without grinding to a halt). > > > > > Can anybody suggest a non-java based editor (I do not like Eclipse or > > > > NetBeans or anything Java come to that)? I've tried Xcode, but it > > > > seems really clunky and not at all geared to PHP. It needs to have > > > > project handling like Komodo, code intelligence and above all, it must > > > > be free. > > > > > Maybe a Macport of Bluefish - anybody tried that? > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "CakePHP" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
