> Even those apps were ported to
>  Yii/CodeIgniter/WhateverFasterHelloWorldFramework and it proves to be
>  faster than Cake, I will still use Cake because it makes my code look
>  nice, reduces development time and increases developer (me) happiness.

on a current project of mine, a page with a lot of DB calls with
plenty of recursion, takes 0.187s to render, that's plenty quick
enough for me.

j

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