Thanks (again) nate for this opening to the community !

My 2 cents :
-> CakePHP (Several good things have already been said so I kept the
most important to me)
+ No namespaces : CakePHP 2.0 must be PHP5.3+
+ Better plugin management : dependencies management, versions, some
API changes (HTMLHelper ...) to make it easier to use in plugins
+ Bake might permit to choose the application language
+ A CoffeeBehavior ... because it's a shame to not have a good coffee
to go with a beautiful Cake :o)

-> Community
+ More tolerance towards ticket openers : I saw many people totally
hate you guys because their tickets go "won't fix" because a test was
missing ... everyone can't spend 2 hours on a ticket, it has to be
understood otherwise no more feedbacks !
+ Missing a Uber-Bakery containing "official" plugins, behaviors ...
with their SCM. The place where one can find the right code when he
needs it. Note: it does not means that a "messy" bakery is not useful,
but in my opinion the community needs a place to find the best plugins
and behaviors to contribute instead of reinventing the wheel.
+ Less tools but more homogeneity : tools are not clear enough for
newcomers (or not so good english speakers). Between thechaw, bakery,
cake, cakeforge, IRC, Google group, CakePlanet (blogs), Ohloh, twitter
(etc.) it's hard to follow everything without missing important
announcements.
+ (Last but not least ^^) Include local communities for communication
purposes. As one of the french community leader, I cannot read all the
google groups messages or announcement or other discussions because we
have our own forum with people to help, discussions, tutorials to
maintain and several other things. However, it would be great if this
kind of discussion was broadcasted through local communities along
with announcements. PROPOSAL => send an email to each community
contact (e.g cakephp-translators mailing-list) when an important
announcement is made so we can transmit it to our communities.
... and my "multi-language Cake" with built-in translations !

Thanks again for this interesting discussion, I hope a summary of all
these points will be communicated elsewhere.
I love CakePHP and its developers, thank you for everything which has
been done ...

Pierre (aka real34)

On 12 mai, 22:18, yodi <[email protected]> wrote:
> 1. PHP 4 Support *let's make CakePHP more fast with full PHP 5
> 2. Prototype and Scriptlous * it's better using Jquery
> 3. No CounterCache HABTM
> 4. Complex and heavy ACL * it's works to me but very hard for newbie
> 5. Still not effective form helper html
>
> imagine how long code using form helper for link of image like this :
> &lt;a href=""&gt;<img>&lt;/a&gt;
>
> On Thu, 2009-05-07 at 15:29 -0700, Nate wrote:
> > Well, maybe hate's a strong word.  Let's say, what do you like the
> > least?  Kind of an odd question, I know, but since we've kick-started
> > development of a new version, I'd like to know what the most
> > frustrating things with the framework are, even if they're things we
> > can't fix right away.
>
> > I'll get us started: PHP 4 support.
>
> > Who's next? TIA for the input.
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