On Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 10:42 AM, lefty<[email protected]> wrote:
>
> only got into baking very recently, and while there are lots of
> promises how 'supersimple' everything is with cake i still havent
> found the most basic fundamentals of how its actually working.
>
> is there anybody who can answer these simple questions - they would
> help me getting a long way into actually really using cake instead of
> just pasting & modifying codesnippets from other sources :
>
> 1. Where are the objects ??
> I see lots of classes but no instances of them.Yes, there is '$this',
> but it doesnt count since its a reference to an actual object, which,
> as far as i could see in all the tutorials, doesnt exist yet.
>
> 2. I see of a static parent::method and variable, i see variables that
> are handled via arrays, but where are object references ??
There are object refs all over the place! Start with dispatcher.php
and follow from there.
> 3. also havent come across a protected method in any tutorial yet.
> Why is that - just by chance ? or did i not look well enough.
Because CakePHP supports PHP4.x the public/private/protected keywords
are not used. A protected method or variable will be prefixed by a
single underscore ('_') and a private one with two ('__').
> So. In order to use the structure it is essential to know whats
> actually going on. 'sentences like 'cake' does this or that dont help,
> btw. escpecially since i have no clue who the hell 'cake' is :).
CakePHP is a framework. If someone says that it "does" something it
means, "this is how it works".
I agree that Cake is a bit difficult to follow, especially when first
diving into it. I'm sure there is documentation out there somewhere
that runs through a complete and *detailed* example of a request but
I've never seen it. Perhaps somebody else can post a link.
> I hope that these questions are easily answered in no cookbook
> style :)
> The cookbook is going into details of functionality before the basic
> structure is clarified. It repeats itself with cake makes this and
> that easy for you, but what i a always missing, is : how, does cake do
> it. Yes the codesnippets are easy, yes the conventions are great, yes
> the MVC structure is cool, and yes i'm sure cake can do it. Is there a
> reference maybe, or a clear and simple model of how it does these
> things, so that beginners with cake dont need to try and make 'cake'
> do things in ways that it wasnt designed for ?
>
> Many thx lefty
> >
>
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