Really good response - thank you. I like Cake and see myself using it
for the long haul. I am aware that you only get out what you put in. I
want to contribute but - like a lot of other people (I guess) I am
still in the naive wide-eyed looking up to the experts stage, so am
taking more than I can give. Honestly I didn't even know (care?) that
Mozilla used it. I just don't want to adopt something that becomes far
inferior to other frameworks due to starvation or a lack or attention.
If that is not the case, then great. It makes you think, a bit, when a
large corporation like Mozilla take a strategic decision to move away
from what you have adopted. I don't want to regret my choice. It's a
good choice now, I want it to stay that way. Don't let me be the guy
wandering the streets in flares and long sideburns thinking I am still
cool!

On Nov 18, 8:09 am, Martin Westin <[email protected]> wrote:
> A lot of their reasoning is solid but part of it sound like classic
> 1.1 issues. They note some of it in their google spreadsheet.
>
> Reading partly between the lines it sounds like they don't like
> Simpletest, the cake shell and php4 limitations (=ORM with array-
> data). With that one has to understand that they compare Cake's
> roadmap with other frameworks and feel that they will be better served
> by a framework with, for example, object-based ORM today and not at
> some point in the future.
>
> @jburns, @Okto
> I have been building stuff with CakePHP for almost 4 years (on and
> off) and I can still recognize the worry you guys express. "Will Cake
> survive?", "Is everyone abandoning the sinking ship?" and thoughts
> like that can easily crop up when you hear things like this. Back in
> 2006 the question was wether a "rails ripoff" could survive at all...
> Cake is still here among numerous "competitors" more or less inspired
> by Rails.
>
> Just remember... The Mozilla team are not (afaik) the driving force
> behind CakePHP. They have been big users and probably quite big
> contributors. They have provided a real-world showcase and test-case
> for big deployments that have probably helped find optimization
> bottlenecks and things like that.
>
> Also, in relation to the whole li3 thing, the last time CakePHP had a
> "big crisis" (core members disagreeing in public in early 2008 I
> believe) it ended up kickstarting the final push towards 1.2 stable.
> Mark really started to make himself known as THE driving force behind
> a lot of the work and improvements and bug fixes sped up.
>
> CakePHP is like any open project... some people leave as others join
> and the fate of the framework is up to you guys, me and anyone who
> cares to make any contributions they can to it. You can and certainly
> should consider other frameworks, that is just good sense. But you
> hopefully chose Cake for a reason and I hope that reason was not that
> Mozilla used it :)
>
> Also, a lot of what you learn now will translate quite well to other
> frameworks.
>
> /Martin
>
> On Nov 18, 5:07 am, Okto Silaban <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Maybe some of you haven't heard about this..
>
> > Just FYI, AMO (addons.mozilla.org) now still using cakephp 1.1. But
> > they've planned to migrate to Django.
>
> > Link :http://micropipes.com/blog/2009/11/17/amo-development-changes-in-2010/
>
> > labanux,http://okto.silaban.net

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