I endorse what Paul says. I, too, had built up my own library of code, but it 
got so complex (and probably not very good!) and I always seemed to be building 
and improving the library each time I faced a new challenge rather than 
developing my apps. This slowed down my delivery rate, and led me to go hunting 
for a better solution. I looked at CodeIgniter, Zend, WaveMaker and a few 
others, but decided that Cake was as good as any. It seemed to offer good 
community support (which has proved true and been borne fruit), is in constant 
development/improvement and is fully rounded (you can do most things with it). 
One thing that helped me enormously was to stop fighting it, admit I only know 
how to use a fraction of it and ask for help. In 97.4% of all cases it is me 
making making a basic error, not the fault of Cake. Once you jump on board and 
go with the flow, it really pays dividends. I have also found that straying too 
far off the path and trying to do my own thing is bad - sticking to conventions 
is good in so many ways.

Jeremy Burns
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On 28 Mar 2010, at 09:15, WebbedIT wrote:

> Can you explain why you believe Cake/Auth is removing Username and
> Password?  Can you boil this down to a very simple code example where
> a non ajax form submits all fields and your ajax form submits all
> fields minus the username and password?
> 
> I have designed many sites with Cake and never had such issues
> including using jQuery/AJAX to validate a form field by field
> including username and password (although you can't use the field
> password as Cake automatically hashes it - but that's no biggy).
> 
> As for your argument that for an experienced developer who is very
> confident with PHP, MySQL, Flex etc, maybe using a framework is not
> the best option for you if you already have your own library of
> code ... it's a personal choice.
> 
> For me who had taught myself PHP and a lot of bad habits CakePHP has
> been a steep learning curve that was well worth it.  My coding now
> follows the MVC design pattern and is so much more efficient and
> maintainable.  Other developers could instantly step into my shoes and
> support/develop my code.
> 
> Don;t know if anyone can answer which of the many benefits cake
> offer's would suit you, you must have started looking at frameworks
> for a reason so your best placed to know if a framework has made your
> life any better.  Personally if I were you I would stick with it till
> you become more familiar with all of the features as I am yet to see
> one person in the community come out and say I have given Cake a good
> go and I'm going back to my own PHP and there are a lot of developers
> in the community.
> 
> Those who do slate Cake tend to be favouring another framework from
> what I have seen.
> 
> Check out the new CakePHP Questions site http://cakeqs.org and help others 
> with their CakePHP related questions.
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