I agree with Miles that you should just use static HTML wherever possible. It's just plain faster. If you use PHP to generate your HTML, then you're adding an extra step to the process: instead of just serving up plain HTML, the PHP parser needs to read the code, interpret it, figure out what to do with it, and then output the results. Not terribly efficient, especially if all you want is "<div>".
Like you just said, your file size nearly tripled. You can generate an entire website with CakePHP's helpers, sure, but you'll sure take a hit in the efficiency department. - Jamie On Apr 22, 4:01 pm, Ed Propsner <crotchf...@gmail.com> wrote: > Yep, the entire page is full of 'em ... 8-). I was just goofing around with > it ... I wanted to see if the page could really be coded in nothing but cake > tags. In the end it turned out to be quite the project to code the entire > layout that way (the file size nearly tripled). Why is it that you would > suggest using all static divs? I'm contemplating putting it back the way > that it was but I'm really not seeing the difference at this point. > > > > > > On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 2:05 PM, Miles J <mileswjohn...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Wait, so your saying you used the HTMLHelper div() method to build > > everything? Should just stick with static divs. > > > On Apr 22, 2:34 am, Sam Sherlock <sam.sherl...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > I think its a question of clarity and ease to create maintain views > > > > - S > > > > On 22 April 2010 09:47, Ed Propsner <crotchf...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > I'm with ya' on consistency and jumping in and out of php. The > > document > > > > seems to have a better flow and feel to it now that's it more uniform. > > If > > > > anything else it was good practice for someone new to Cake :) > > > > > - Ed > > > > > On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 4:35 AM, Jeremy Burns <jeremybu...@me.com> > > wrote: > > > > >> I have asked myself this question too and posed a similar point (is > > using > > > >> Cake tags ultimately slower than straightforward html? to which the > > answer > > > >> was 'probably, yes'). However, I have adopted the Cake tag route > > throughout > > > >> because (i) it provide consistency, (ii) it means I am not jumping in > > and > > > >> out of PHP and (iii) it just feels 'safer' - pass in the right options > > and > > > >> out pops the right html. I guess it's a matter of choice? > > > > >> Jeremy Burns > > > >> jeremybu...@me.com <jeremybu...@mac.com> > > > > >> On 22 Apr 2010, at 09:31, Ed Propsner wrote: > > > > >> Out of curiosity and perhaps a little boredom I re-scripted my > > default.ctp > > > >> to completely follow Cake conventions. > > > >> From the doctype to the closing html tag there is not a single > > > >> conventional html tag on the page. > > > >> 95% of my layout is structured with divs in lieu of tables so there is > > > >> quite a bit on the page as far as tags go. > > > > >> My question is this ... how much is too much? 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