I would also add that it can be difficult to work with if you need to transpose 
or retype/re-enter the ids at any time. Having said all that, I think UUIDs 
have a definite place in an app.

Jeremy Burns
Class Outfit

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On 28 Dec 2010, at 20:59, Ryan Schmidt wrote:

> 
> On Dec 28, 2010, at 04:39, Jeremy Burns | Class Outfit wrote:
> 
>> I *think* the main benefit is obfuscation - if you want to hide the fact 
>> that I am only the third user, for example. It also makes it more difficult 
>> to guess the id belonging to another row in the table (for example, a table 
>> that stores company records).
> 
> That's what I would think as well. Take for example Craig's List. Each ad has 
> an auto-increment id, which appears in the email address that you use to 
> respond to the ad, e.g. "sale-12345678 at craigslist dot org". I imagine they 
> were getting a lot of spam under that system, since if you can see what one 
> ad's id is, you can guess others. So now they insert a hash of some kind in 
> addition to that id, e.g. "sale-m4m92-12345678 at craigslist dot org". Now 
> even if you know the sequence of auto-increment ids they use, you can't guess 
> the hash. If they were redesigning the system today, maybe they would omit 
> the auto-increment id altogether and use only a hash (though it would have to 
> be much longer than 5 characters to avoid collisions).
> 
> Obfuscation shouldn't be your only security measure, but it can be a helpful 
> additional step in some situations.
> 
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