This is pretty much a thinking out loud experiment/meander as I understand it 
to be in cake.

I have a 80/20mbit FTTC line into the house.  Egress shaping/control with cake 
is simple, easy, beautiful and it works.  Tell it to use 19900Kbit, set some 
min packet size, a bit of overhead and off you go.  Ingress has more problems:

Assuming I do actually get 80Mbit incoming then the naive bandwidth setting for 
CAKE would be 80Mbit.  Cake internally dequeues at that 80Mbit rate and 
therefore the only way any flows can accumulate backlog is when they’re 
competing with each other in terms of fairness(Tin/Host) and quantums become 
involved…I think.  The backlog is controlled by the cake egress rate.  There’s 
an ‘ingress’ mode within cake that AFIUI says ‘even though you dropped a 
packet, still include it in the ‘bandwidth occupied’ count, because the data 
still arrived through the link, even though we dropped it’ BUT we’re still 
operating at the output/egress side of cake and not looking at all at how much 
data is arriving on the queue input side…the upstream ISP shaper is doing that 
for us.

I’ve been wondering about how to control the rate on the input side to cake, 
and an ingress policer is available under linux.  If that policer is set a 
little below the ISP rate then IT, in theory, will shoot packets first and 
harder than the ISP one, therefore the congestion/control point is with us.  
And I also think we’ve the potential of running cake in ‘unlimited’ mode… ie. 
it doesn’t have to do the shaping (at the wrong point - egress). It just does 
‘flow/host’ fairness ‘backpressure’.

Does any of that make sense?

Cheers,

Kevin D-B

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