On Fri, Oct 15, 2021 at 8:17 AM Thomas Croghan <tcrog...@lostcreek.tech> wrote:
>
> I listened to you on Modem, Nick is pretty involved with us on TBW, but Modem 
> is his own thing. While there's some overlap I'd suspect that we have a 
> diverse enough listener base that you should get some new ears. But I totally 
> get not wanting to waste your time talking to the same audience.

I think enough new stuff has happened to have things worth talking
about in late november or early december. I can discuss some potential
new-ish topics offlist.

> I'll see about what I will need to do to setup a proper test suite to get 
> usable data.

Particularly if we can get good data back from the mikrotik beta!
Flent is our goto tool of course. Rrul tests are generally a quick
start.

> On Thu, Oct 14, 2021, 3:33 PM Dave Taht <dave.t...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 14, 2021 at 3:18 PM Thomas Croghan <tcrog...@lostcreek.tech> 
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Ya, I've got access to most of their CCR line, and I have a smattering of 
>> > their RB line. TBH, the only places I think you will see interesting data 
>> > is with the 1072 (72 tile core 1 GHz) and the 2004 (4 core 1.7 GHz ARM64).
>>
>> The former would be exciting. We have wrestled with the htb qdisc lock
>> a lot, I'm glad the ebpf version is scaling well in libreqos, but
>> I'd still suspect that number of cores to be really hard to utilize.
>>
>> > I'm also with The Brother's WISP, so if Dave wants to do a cast I can set 
>> > that up with the other guys. I'm pretty sure there was some conversation 
>> > about trying to get Dave on a while back.
>>
>> I was on already with dan! How quickly we forget!!
>>
>> https://www.modem.show/post/s01e07/
>>
>> is that not the brothers wisp? an affiliated show?
>>
>> I AM trying to do some form of outreach, monthly, but was hoping that
>> the apple folk would step up to talk about the rpm idea.
>>
>> After baring my soul regarding the l4s debate on reality 2.0 I'd kind
>> of had it for a while - I'd run out of good jokes - I said to myself
>> after that - ... "if (when?) starlink implements cake on the dishy,
>> perhaps joe rogan will *finally* call, and I can divert the convo from
>> bufferbloat to near earth asteroid exploration over a doobie."
>>
>> so far, he hasn't called.
>>
>> BTW!!! it's a good quarter for asteroid exploration - see the psyche
>> mission, and this: https://www.nasa.gov/planetarydefense/dart
>>
>> So, anyway, if anyone *else* here likes the idea of going on a podcast
>> on the bloat front please let me know, I did let a couple
>> opportunities slip by last month. Or if I must go on, I could use some
>> new jokes and analogies....
>>
>> >
>> >
>> > On Thu, Oct 14, 2021, 11:27 AM Jordan Szuch via Cake 
>> > <cake@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Awesome, thanks! I went and subscribed to that topic so I'll get 
>> >> notifications when people reply. Hope to jump in once I'm less busy with 
>> >> my day to day work.
>> >>
>> >> Regarding more powerful hardware, I think someone replied to the mailing 
>> >> list earlier offering to run some tests. Sounded like he might have some 
>> >> bigger hardware to test out. Thomas Croghan back on Monday morning it 
>> >> looks like.
>> >>
>> >> Might also be worth reaching out to these guys to do some testing or 
>> >> evangelizing at least: https://thebrotherswisp.com/ They run a podcast 
>> >> with a rotating cast of network operators, WISPS, etc. And they seem 
>> >> pretty clued into the MIkrotik world specifically. I recall that you've 
>> >> jumped onto a podcast or two recently so that's why I bring it up.
>> >>
>> >> Anyway, I listen from time to time and one of the hosts brought up being 
>> >> very interested in using fq_codel and CAKE in a Multi Dwelling Unit 
>> >> scenario (mentioned here after a 3-4 minutes 
>> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFKG_cXGPrE&t=4444s). Actually, I think 
>> >> they even name check you in an earlier episode (found it: 
>> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1QitymNZTo&t=4285s), although one host 
>> >> was a bit skeptical of everything.
>> >>
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: Dave Taht <dave.t...@gmail.com>
>> >> Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2021 1:09 PM
>> >> To: Jordan Szuch <jor...@inacomptc.com>
>> >> Cc: Cake List <cake@lists.bufferbloat.net>; bloat 
>> >> <bl...@lists.bufferbloat.net>
>> >> Subject: Re: [Bloat] some mikrotik comments
>> >>
>> >> Thx. I put the discussion and plots over here:
>> >>
>> >> https://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?t=179307
>> >>
>> >> I might - should I feel like expounding more later this week - go back to 
>> >> the flent.gz files to discuss other features. Ironically the chromebook I 
>> >> have in front of me doesn't want to let me download a file via email and 
>> >> make it visible in the real filesystem. I'm vm'd off from myself for some 
>> >> reason.
>> >>
>> >> But my big goal, honestly, was to get some mikrotik users to test their 
>> >> bigger iron...
>> >>
>> >> On Sun, Oct 10, 2021 at 9:05 AM Jordan Szuch via Bloat 
>> >> <bl...@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > Hi Dave,
>> >> >
>> >> > Interesting that you should send this out; I recently picked up a unit 
>> >> > (this one specifically: https://mikrotik.com/product/hap_ac2) to do 
>> >> > some testing of the v7 firmware. Nothing super high end but enough to 
>> >> > do a little testing. I have CAKE set to do some shaping and so far 
>> >> > seems functional. At least the bufferbloat speed tests from DSLReports 
>> >> > and WaveForm indicate some shaping is happening. If you'd like any 
>> >> > information about the unit, the v7 firmware, or particular tests run 
>> >> > then I'd be happy to help out.
>> >> >
>> >> > Jordan
>> >> >
>> >> > -----Original Message-----
>> >> > From: Bloat <bloat-boun...@lists.bufferbloat.net> On Behalf Of Dave
>> >> > Taht
>> >> > Sent: Sunday, October 10, 2021 11:39 AM
>> >> > To: Cake List <cake@lists.bufferbloat.net>; bloat
>> >> > <bl...@lists.bufferbloat.net>
>> >> > Subject: [Bloat] some mikrotik comments
>> >> >
>> >> > the v7 beta gained doc and more os support for fq_codel and cake
>> >> > recently
>> >> >
>> >> > https://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?p=885000#p885000
>> >> >
>> >> > anyone out there actively testing mikrotik?
>> >> >
>> >> > --
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>> >> >
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