Hi Jonathan

> On Dec 14, 2021, at 10:57, Jonathan Morton <chromati...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> On 14 Dec, 2021, at 8:06 am, Dave Taht <dave.t...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> ok, it looks like ecn and perhaps dscp is busted on this mikrotik
>> release. Ton more plots, false starts, and packet captures here.
>> 
>> https://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?p=897892#p897892
>> 
>> Also well, codel is doing better than cobalt, and SFQ at least at
>> these RTTs is doing really, really well.
> 
> Codel *with ECN disabled* is doing better under these conditions, based on 
> what I can see via the Google Drive links.  This makes some sense if the ECN 
> CE marks are being silently erased (which is *very* bad behaviour), rather 
> than the packets carrying them being treated as dropped (as I'd expect from a 
> wrong checksum).
> 
> Under this particular pathology, COBALT is still able to act via the BLUE 
> algorithm, but in Cake this kicks in only when the queue first reads as full. 
>  In other implementations of COBALT, it also triggers when the sojourn time 
> reaches 400ms (by default).
> 
> Mikrotik - or whoever is responsible for this - needs to fix their crap so 
> that the ECN field is processed correctly.  End of discussion.

Could we maybe introduce a no-ecn keyword to switch cake to drop only mode? If 
only to help diagnose ECN issues?

Regards
        Sebastian


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