Hi Jonathan > On Dec 14, 2021, at 10:57, Jonathan Morton <chromati...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> On 14 Dec, 2021, at 8:06 am, Dave Taht <dave.t...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> ok, it looks like ecn and perhaps dscp is busted on this mikrotik >> release. Ton more plots, false starts, and packet captures here. >> >> https://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?p=897892#p897892 >> >> Also well, codel is doing better than cobalt, and SFQ at least at >> these RTTs is doing really, really well. > > Codel *with ECN disabled* is doing better under these conditions, based on > what I can see via the Google Drive links. This makes some sense if the ECN > CE marks are being silently erased (which is *very* bad behaviour), rather > than the packets carrying them being treated as dropped (as I'd expect from a > wrong checksum). > > Under this particular pathology, COBALT is still able to act via the BLUE > algorithm, but in Cake this kicks in only when the queue first reads as full. > In other implementations of COBALT, it also triggers when the sojourn time > reaches 400ms (by default). > > Mikrotik - or whoever is responsible for this - needs to fix their crap so > that the ECN field is processed correctly. End of discussion.
Could we maybe introduce a no-ecn keyword to switch cake to drop only mode? If only to help diagnose ECN issues? Regards Sebastian > > - Jonathan Morton > _______________________________________________ > Cake mailing list > Cake@lists.bufferbloat.net > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/cake _______________________________________________ Cake mailing list Cake@lists.bufferbloat.net https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/cake