Hi Dave,

> On Oct 26, 2022, at 22:42, Dave Taht <dave.t...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I loved paced chirping.

        [SM] Yes it sounded like a clever idea (however I would prefer a 
clearer signal from the network about queue-filling). However I have heard 
precious little about parced-chirping actually working in the real internet, 
which IMHO means the following questions are still open:
a) does it actually work under any realistic conditions?
b) under which condition will it fail?
c) how likely are these conditions over the existing internet?

IIRC it uses packet spacing to deduce whether capacity has been reached, and 
since packet spacing is a known unreliable source of information it needs to 
average and aggregate to make up for operating based on questionable data. IMHO 
it would be preferable to solve the "questionable data" problem as my gut 
feeling is with better data would come simpler solutions to the same challenge.
Or I am simply misremembering the whole thing and be barking up the wrong tree 
;)

> I also loved packet subwindows.

That was allowing "rates" below one packet per RTT?

> I wish we could all agree to get
> cracking on working on those two things for cubic and reno rather than
> whinging all the time about the stuff we will never agree on.

;). You might have seen some of my code, which should indicate that maybe I am 
not going to be all that helpful in the "get cracking" department ;)


Regards
        Sebastian
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