Thanks Michal, I agree with a lot of these.
On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 3:21 PM, Michal Mocny <mmo...@chromium.org> wrote: > My bullet point indentation is terribad ;) But you should be able to > figure it out. > > > On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 3:21 PM, Michal Mocny <mmo...@chromium.org> wrote: > > > Alright, I'll post my comments here for now, but I'll have to ponder over > > a more scalable approach in the future. (Im thinking that an online > > document editor that sends all comments to ML and allows replies inline > > would work really nice..). > > > > * You will be able to access the client interface via: $ ./bin/cordova > > * * suggest replacing ./ with $(CORDOVA_CLIENT_DIR)/ > > > > * Subcommands section > > * * Typical unix manpage style is to use [] to surround optional > arguments > > <> to surround explanations and nothing for keywords. Examples that need > > fixing include: > > * * * create <directory> [<id>] [<name>] > > * * * platform ls > > * * * platform add <platform> > > * * * etc > > * * even if we aren't aiming for manpage style here, there > > are inconsistencies > > > > * * File and Directory Structure ascii tree diagram > > * * * suggest appending / after directory names > > > > * * ... it's assumed to be a 'backed in' platform/plugin. Otherwise, it's > > assumed to be a URL to a gzipped tar archive... > > * * * Not sure what 'backed in' means here, nor how to identify something > > as not being backed in so as to fallback to gzipped tar > > * * * Also wording sounds more like "else .. else" instead of "else if .. > > else" (if that makes sense) :P > > > > * * KewlApp directory structure ascii tree diagram > > * * * based on my understanding of the text, the ios/android platforms > > should be subdirs of platforms/ and there should also be a subdir listed > in > > plugins/ > > > > * * Running tests warning > > * * * Perhaps explain how to bootstrap so as not to have failing tests > > instead of assuming the reverse? > > > > Also, I will look into bash completions in some spare cycles and if it > > looks reasonable I may volunteer for the task. I've been curious to > learn > > how those work :) > > > > -Michal > > > > > > On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 2:52 PM, Filip Maj <f...@adobe.com> wrote: > > > >> Mailing list! We forked and committed for the simple stuff (deeper > >> explanations and merging documentation), but if you have discussion + > >> design points, ML is the place to do it. > >> > >> On 9/10/12 11:31 AM, "Michal Mocny" <mmo...@chromium.org> wrote: > >> > >> >I'm just reading along and would like to make some comments here and > >> >there. > >> > However, it seems pretty inefficient to branch the project just to > mark > >> >my > >> >comments and email may be confusing. > >> > > >> >Usually I've just used Google Docs to mark comments inline for stuff > like > >> >this but perhaps that suggestion won't fly well. Does github not have > a > >> >feature for this (commenting on a file, starting a wiki, etc?) > >> > > >> >Any suggestions/opinions? > >> > > >> > > >> >On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 2:25 PM, Mike Reinstein > >> ><reinstein.m...@gmail.com>wrote: > >> > > >> >> Looks good to me. What are the next steps? One thing I'd like to see > >> >>happen > >> >> is getting rid of some of those repos and documentation pages that > are > >> >> redundant. > >> >> > >> >> -Mike > >> >> > >> >> On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 2:04 PM, Filip Maj <f...@adobe.com> wrote: > >> >> > >> >> > Nice! > >> >> > > >> >> > I worked out some of your quotes/questions and put it up on my > branch > >> >>on > >> >> > github: https://github.com/filmaj/cordova-client/tree/einstein > >> >> > > >> >> > On 9/9/12 8:02 AM, "Mike Reinstein" <reinstein.m...@gmail.com> > >> wrote: > >> >> > > >> >> > >Hey folks, > >> >> > > > >> >> > >Hope you all had a nice weekend. I have a preliminary draft ready > >> >>that > >> >> > >merges cordova-client and command line tooling design into 1 > >> >>document: > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > >> > https://github.com/mreinstein/incubator-cordova-labs/tree/cordova-client > >> >> > > > >> >> > >Any feedback would be greatly appreciated. Thanks! > >> >> > > > >> >> > >-Mike > >> >> > > > >> >> > >On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 10:01 PM, Anis KADRI <anis.ka...@gmail.com > > > >> >> wrote: > >> >> > > > >> >> > >> Hi Mike, > >> >> > >> > >> >> > >> pluginstall-with-git support is just an experiment that I did a > >> >>while > >> >> > >>back > >> >> > >> (it takes git URLs as well as local paths). I suggest you base > >> your > >> >> > >>work on > >> >> > >> alunny's pluginstall until/if those changes get merged. > >> >> > >> > >> >> > >> Cheers > >> >> > >> > >> >> > >> Anis > >> >> > >> > >> >> > >> On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 6:14 PM, Mike Reinstein < > >> >> > reinstein.m...@gmail.com > >> >> > >> >wrote: > >> >> > >> > >> >> > >> > I see 2 repositories for pluginstall: > >> >> > >> > > >> >> > >> > > >> >> > >> > > >> >> > >> > >> >> > >> > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > >> > https://github.com/apache/incubator-cordova-labs/tree/pluginstall-with-gi > >> >> > >>t-support > >> >> > >> > > >> >> > >> > and Andrew's: > >> >> > >> > https://github.com/alunny/pluginstall > >> >> > >> > > >> >> > >> > When consolidating the pluginstall and plugin format docs I > >> >>forked > >> >> > >> Andrew's > >> >> > >> > repo. Should I instead have used the > >> pluginstall-with-git-support > >> >> > >>repo as > >> >> > >> > my base? > >> >> > >> > > >> >> > >> > -Mike > >> >> > >> > > >> >> > >> > On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 8:01 PM, Mike Reinstein > >> >> > >><reinstein.m...@gmail.com > >> >> > >> > >wrote: > >> >> > >> > > >> >> > >> > > My username is nekoflux. > >> >> > >> > > > >> >> > >> > > > >> >> > >> > > > >> >> > >> > > On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 7:53 PM, Filip Maj <f...@adobe.com> > >> >>wrote: > >> >> > >> > > > >> >> > >> > >> JIRA is separate, we can assign issues to you (if you so > >> >>wish). > >> >> > >> > >> > >> >> > >> > >> On 9/7/12 4:51 PM, "Shazron" <shaz...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> >> > >> > >> > >> >> > >> > >> >Registration is open - let us know what your user account > is > >> >> once > >> >> > >>you > >> >> > >> > >> >do that, for assigning issues to yourself you need us to > add > >> >>you > >> >> > >>to a > >> >> > >> > >> >contributors group. > >> >> > >> > >> > > >> >> > >> > >> >On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 4:44 PM, Mike Reinstein < > >> >> > >> > reinstein.m...@gmail.com > >> >> > >> > >> > > >> >> > >> > >> >wrote: > >> >> > >> > >> >> Okay, will do. Any feedback on the other comments? I'll > >> >> proceed > >> >> > >> with > >> >> > >> > >> >> merging the cordova-client and command line tooling spec > >> >> next. I > >> >> > >> > >> >>suppose it > >> >> > >> > >> >> probably makes sense for me to start working out of JIRA > >> so > >> >> > >>these > >> >> > >> > tasks > >> >> > >> > >> >>can > >> >> > >> > >> >> be tracked. Is registration open or do I need to get > >> >> permission > >> >> > >> from > >> >> > >> > an > >> >> > >> > >> >> admin for an account? > >> >> > >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> > >> >> On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 2:37 PM, Filip Maj < > f...@adobe.com> > >> >> > wrote: > >> >> > >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> > >> >>> Sorry for the late reply, this looks awesome! > >> >> > >> > >> >>> > >> >> > >> > >> >>> The one modification I would do is remove "www" as a > >> >>platform > >> >> > >>(you > >> >> > >> > >> >>>have a > >> >> > >> > >> >>> comment in there about that too). > >> >> > >> > >> >>> > >> >> > >> > >> >>> On 9/5/12 7:12 PM, "Mike Reinstein" < > >> >> reinstein.m...@gmail.com> > >> >> > >> > wrote: > >> >> > >> > >> >>> > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >> eventually we will move pluginstall into apache > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >Okay, I wasn't sure if that would happen, so I went > with > >> >>the > >> >> > >> > slightly > >> >> > >> > >> >>>more > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >conservative assumption, that pluginstall might live > >> >> > >>separately > >> >> > >> > from > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >cordova-client. But I get the impression this is a > >> >>left-over > >> >> > >> notion > >> >> > >> > >> >>>from > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >when Andrew first built pluginstall and it wasn't > clear > >> >>then > >> >> > >> > whether > >> >> > >> > >> >>>or > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >not > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >it would take hold. > >> >> > >> > >> >>> > > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >I've got an initial version of the merged > documentation > >> >>for > >> >> > >>the > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >pluginstall > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >command line tool, and the specification doc. It's > here > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >https://github.com/mreinstein/pluginstall > >> >> > >> > >> >>> > > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >I've also added some comments on possible changes. > >> >>Overall > >> >> the > >> >> > >> doc > >> >> > >> > is > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >pretty tight, so it's largely unchanged. Would really > >> >> > >>appreciate > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >constructive feedback on this. If it looks right I'll > >> >>send a > >> >> > >>pull > >> >> > >> > >> >>>request > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >to alunny, and then proceed with merging > cordova-client > >> >> design > >> >> > >> doc > >> >> > >> > >> >>>into > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >the > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >README on github. > >> >> > >> > >> >>> > > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >-Mike > >> >> > >> > >> >>> > > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >On Tue, Sep 4, 2012 at 1:47 PM, Filip Maj < > >> f...@adobe.com> > >> >> > >>wrote: > >> >> > >> > >> >>> > > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >> +1 ! > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >> > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >> (I THINK) eventually we will move pluginstall into > >> >>apache > >> >> > >> > (assuming > >> >> > >> > >> >>>the > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >> authors are cool with that) so it will go 2 docs -> > 1 > >> >>doc. > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >> > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >> On 9/3/12 1:49 PM, "Brian LeRoux" <b...@brian.io> > wrote: > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >> > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >love it > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >> > > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >On Sat, Sep 1, 2012 at 7:13 AM, Mike Reinstein > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >><reinstein.m...@gmail.com> > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >wrote: > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >> Ah ok, thanks for the clarification. I've had a > >> >>chance > >> >> to > >> >> > >> > review > >> >> > >> > >> >>>the > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>docs > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >> more carefully. I'm really impressed with how > well > >> >> > >>written > >> >> > >> > they > >> >> > >> > >> >>>are. > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>What I > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >> *think* makes the most sense is to consolidate > into > >> >> fewer > >> >> > >> > >> >>>documents > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >>so > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>that > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >> it's not necessary to look at so many seperate > >> >>places. > >> >> > >> Here's > >> >> > >> > >> >>>what I > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >> propose: > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >> * merge the cordova-plugin-spec into the > >> >> > >>alunny/pluginstall > >> >> > >> > >> >>>README.md > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >> * merge the command line tooling design doc into > >> the > >> >> > >> > >> >>>cordova-client > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >> README.md > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >> * pull apart the cordova/PluginDesign wiki page > and > >> >> merge > >> >> > >> > parts > >> >> > >> > >> >>>of it > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>into > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >> the above 2 docs > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >> > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >> I think what this gets us is 2 docs instead of 5, > >> >>and > >> >> it > >> >> > >> still > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >>maintains > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >> the nice loose coupling between alunny's > >> pluginstall > >> >> > >>utility > >> >> > >> > and > >> >> > >> > >> >>>the > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>larger > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >> cordova-client. I'm assuming this separation was > >> the > >> >> > >> original > >> >> > >> > >> >>>intent, > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >> rather than having one monolithic tool. > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >> > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >> Would love feedback on this, I don't want to > waste > >> >>time > >> >> > >> doing > >> >> > >> > it > >> >> > >> > >> >>>and > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>find > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >> out this isn't appropriate. :) > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >> > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >> > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >> On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 3:35 PM, Filip Maj > >> >> > >><f...@adobe.com> > >> >> > >> > >> wrote: > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >> > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> Cordova-client depends on pluginstall. > Pluginstall > >> >> does > >> >> > >>the > >> >> > >> > >> hard > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >>work > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>>for > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> programmatic plugin installation, which is just > >> >>one of > >> >> > >>the > >> >> > >> > apis > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>>available > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> in cordova-client. So, cordova=client "shells > out" > >> >>to > >> >> > >> > >> >>>pluginstall. > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> The client also handles app creation, platform > >> >> > >> > >> >>>removal/addition, and > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> interpolating information from app's config.xml > >> >>into > >> >> the > >> >> > >> > >> >>>necessary > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>>spots > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> in each native project. > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> On 8/31/12 12:32 PM, "Mike Reinstein" < > >> >> > >> > >> reinstein.m...@gmail.com> > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >> wrote: > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >Hey Filip, > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> > > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >One thing I"m curious about, whats the > difference > >> >> > >>between > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >https://github.com/alunny/pluginstall and > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >>> > >> >> > >> > >> > >> >> > >> > >> https://github.com/apache/incubator-cordova-labs/tree/cordova-client > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> > > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >there seems to be some overlap there. Is > >> >>pluginstall > >> >> a > >> >> > >> > subset > >> >> > >> > >> >>>of > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >functionality just related to plugins that has > >> >>moved > >> >> > >>into > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>>cordova-client > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >or > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >is it different? > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> > > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >It seems like cordova-client is the most mature > >> >> > >>codebase > >> >> > >> > that > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>>incorporates > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >a lot of ideas, so I'm just chasing down code > I'm > >> >> > >>finding > >> >> > >> to > >> >> > >> > >> >>>see if > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >everythign is in cordova-client or not. Said > >> >> > >>differently, > >> >> > >> is > >> >> > >> > >> it > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >>safe > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>>to > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >assume that just about all the worthwhile code > is > >> >>in > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >>cordova-client? > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> > > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >-Mike > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> > > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> > > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> > > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 3:01 PM, Filip Maj > >> >> > >><f...@adobe.com > >> >> > >> > > >> >> > >> > >> >>>wrote: > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> > > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> All looks good to me Mike. > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> I think the "PluginDesign" wiki article would > >> >>be a > >> >> > >>great > >> >> > >> > >> >>>place to > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> summarize / revamp all this info. Appreciate > >> you > >> >> > >> tackling > >> >> > >> > >> >>>this! > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> On 8/31/12 11:59 AM, "Mike Reinstein" > >> >> > >> > >> >>><reinstein.m...@gmail.com> > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>>wrote: > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >Hey Filip, Brian: > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> > > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >I think where I'd like to start is on > >> >> > >>documentation. I > >> >> > >> > may > >> >> > >> > >> >>>be > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >>wrong > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >>about > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >this, but it seems like there are bits and > >> >>pieces > >> >> of > >> >> > >> docs > >> >> > >> > >> in > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>>various > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >places, and some may be stale or irrelevant. > >> >> Maybe a > >> >> > >> good > >> >> > >> > >> >>>start > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >>is > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>>for > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >>me > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >to find all these pieces, consolidate into a > >> >> > >>"master" > >> >> > >> > >> >>>document, > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >>and > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >>cull > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >out the outdated bits? As a start, here's my > >> >> > >>rephrasing > >> >> > >> > of > >> >> > >> > >> >>>the > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>>various > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >links, etc that you've sent to me. Please > take > >> >>a > >> >> > >>look > >> >> > >> and > >> >> > >> > >> >>>let me > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>>know > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >>if > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >I've characterised the content/purpose of > >> these > >> >> > >>various > >> >> > >> > >> >>>links: > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> > > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> > > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >*The spec for how plugins are declared is > >> here: > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> > > https://github.com/alunny/cordova-plugin-spec > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> > > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >The implementation that manages plugin usage > >> is > >> >> > >>here: > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>>> > >> >> > >> > >> >>> > >> >> > >> > > >> >> https://github.com/apache/incubator-cordova-labs/tree/cordova-client > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >This project encompasses more than just > >> plugins > >> >> > >>because > >> >> > >> > it > >> >> > >> > >> >>>also > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>>handles > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >everything related to building, deploying, > and > >> >> > >>managing > >> >> > >> > >> >>>cordova > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >applications > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> > > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >These plugins are most popular, and should > >> >>ideally > >> >> > >>work > >> >> > >> > >> >>>with the > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >cordova-client implemenation: > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> > > http://github.com/phonegap/phonegap-plugins* > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >* > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >* > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >This implementation by Drew was an initial > >> >>proof > >> >> of > >> >> > >> > >> concept, > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >>which > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>>only > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >works for blackberry and has been abandoned > in > >> >> > >>favor of > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>>cordova-client, > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >with much of his ideas having made it into > >> >> > >> > cordova-client: > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> > > >> >> > >> https://github.com/deedubbu/cordova-blackberry-pluggable > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> > > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >This doc contains some info on the format of > >> >>the > >> >> > >> command > >> >> > >> > >> >>>line > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>>interface > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >and > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >directory structure of cordova-client: > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> > > >> >> > >> http://wiki.apache.org/cordova/CommandLineToolingDesign > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> > > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >This doc contains some documentation on > Drew's > >> >>old > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >>implementation, > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>>and > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >>is > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >out of date now: > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >http://wiki.apache.org/cordova/PluginDesign > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> > > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> > > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >I want to emphasize that I'm just trying to > >> >>get a > >> >> > >> handle > >> >> > >> > on > >> >> > >> > >> >>>what > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>>docs > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >>are > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >relevant and which links contain what. I'm > not > >> >> > >>judging > >> >> > >> > >> >>>anyone's > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>>work or > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >anything like that. :) If I've got the wrong > >> >>idea > >> >> > >>about > >> >> > >> > >> what > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >>these > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >>links > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >represent or contain, _please_ let me know. > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> > > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >-Mike > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> > > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >* > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >* > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >* > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >* > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >* > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >* > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> > > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> > > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> > > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> > > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> > > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >On Sat, Aug 25, 2012 at 7:12 PM, Filip Maj < > >> >> > >> > f...@adobe.com> > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >>wrote: > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> > > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >> The cordova client CLI tooling top-level > >> >>project > >> >> > >>goes > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>>hand-in-hand > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >>with > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >> this spec. Code here: > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >> > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >> > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >> > >> >> > >> > >> >>> > >> >> > >> > >> >>> > >> >> > >> > >> > >> >> > >> > > >> >> > >> > >> >> > >> > https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf?p=incubator-cordova-labs.git;a=s > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>>h > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >>or > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >> tlog;h=refs/heads/cordova-client > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >> > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >> Essentially: vet the spec out to make sure > >> >> popular > >> >> > >> > >> >>>plugins out > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>>in the > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >>wild > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >> (see github.com/phonegap/phonegap-plugins > ) > >> >>work > >> >> > >>with > >> >> > >> > >> this > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >>spec. > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>>Do > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> we > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >>need > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >> to account for anything else? > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >> > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >> I think the one outstanding question is > how > >> >>to > >> >> > >>handle > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>>installation / > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >> compatibility with different versions of > >> >> cordova. > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >> > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >> Documentation for the tool as well as the > >> >>spec > >> >> > >>(put > >> >> > >> it > >> >> > >> > on > >> >> > >> > >> >>>the > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>>wiki, > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >> perhaps) would be awesome! > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >> > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >> On 8/25/12 10:23 AM, "Mike Reinstein" > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >><reinstein.m...@gmail.com> > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >>wrote: > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >> > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >Hi Brian, Filip, > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >> > > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >Thanks for the pointers to those > projects. > >> >>I'd > >> >> > >>love > >> >> > >> to > >> >> > >> > >> >>>dig in > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>>and > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >>start > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >helping, where do you feel the most help > is > >> >> > >>needed > >> >> > >> at > >> >> > >> > >> the > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>>moment? > >> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >Documentation? 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