Sounds like a new thread :) On 9/18/12 11:23 AM, "Joe Bowser" <bows...@gmail.com> wrote:
>OK, How about we do the following: > >1. Announce that 2.1 will be dropped six months from now, as per our >deprecation policy >2. Keep support for Android 3.x for the time being and watch to see >the percentages drop > >Honestly, I think our deprecation policy is far too long, but given >how it was created, I understand the reason for it. What do people >think? > >Joe > >On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 10:20 AM, Michael Brooks ><mich...@michaelbrooks.ca> wrote: >>> >>> 1. We are having a tough time finding and keeping Android 2.1 devices >>> (most get upgraded to 2.3 or just die) >> >> >> This is a pain-point that I've felt many times. When I have found a >>device, >> there are enough "quirks" on the browser that it's not worth the >> development time to support the small percentage of users. Usually, I've >> end up supporting 2.3+. >> >> +1 for dropping 2.1. >> >> I'll abstain from voting on Honeycomb because I have very little >>experience >> with that tablet / Android OS. >> >> Michael >> >> On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 8:06 AM, Braden Shepherdson >><bra...@chromium.org>wrote: >> >>> If manufacturers and carriers are rescuing the Galaxy Tabs (the only >>> Honeycomb device with any real penetration, I think) then we can >>>justify >>> dropping support for it eventually. On the other hand, if the only >>>thing >>> stopping it is hardware acceleration, we could easily turn hardware >>> acceleration back on and have a "how to fix Honeycomb" doc as Andrew >>> suggested. >>> >>> +1 to dropping 2.1 >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 7:24 AM, Brian LeRoux <b...@brian.io> wrote: >>> >>> > +1 for dropping 2.1 >>> > +1 for dropping 3.whatever-it-was honeycomb >>> > >>> > ...in 2.2 or should we issue a general warning and wait a couple of >>> > releases? >>> > >>> > >>> > On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 4:41 AM, Shazron <shaz...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> > > Apparently the wifi tablets were only updated last week to ICS >>>(the 3G >>> > > updates came first). Also, manual update: >>> > > >>> > >>> >>>http://www.androidauthority.com/galaxy-tab-10-1-p7510-android-4-0-4-ics- >>>uelpl-update-official-110369/ >>> > > >>> > > On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 7:36 PM, Shazron <shaz...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> > >> Verizon just announced today (yes today!): >>> > >> >>> > >>> >>>http://www.gottabemobile.com/2012/09/17/verizon-galaxy-tab-10-1-ice-crea >>>m-sandwich-update-rolling-out-now/ >>> > >> >>> > >> T-mobile announced 2 weeks back: >>> > >> >>> > >>> >>>http://www.engadget.com/2012/09/03/t-mobile-samsung-galaxy-tab-10-1-andr >>>oid-ics-update/ >>> > >> >>> > >> Apparently its available in Canada since end of August 2012: >>> > >> >>> > >>> >>>http://www.androidcentral.com/telus-bell-and-rogers-samsung-galaxy-tab-1 >>>01-andoid-404-updates-now-available >>> > >> >>> > >>> >>>http://communityforums.rogers.com/t5/forums/forumtopicpage/board-id/Gene >>>ralCareSupport/message-id/355 >>> > >> >>> > >> On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 7:20 PM, Simon MacDonald >>> > >> <simon.macdon...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> > >>> Me either. My Galaxy 10.1 Tab is still running 3.1. >>> > >>> >>> > >>> Simon Mac Donald >>> > >>> http://hi.im/simonmacdonald >>> > >>> >>> > >>> >>> > >>> On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 8:39 PM, Joe Bowser <bows...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> > >>>> Funny, I never got that update. >>> > >>>> On Sep 17, 2012 5:34 PM, "Anis KADRI" <anis.ka...@gmail.com> >>>wrote: >>> > >>>> >>> > >>>>> Talking about the Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 >>> > >>>>> >>> > >>>>> On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 5:33 PM, Anis KADRI >>><anis.ka...@gmail.com> >>> > wrote: >>> > >>>>> >>> > >>>>> > That was last year and Samsung has updated them to 4.0.3 :-) >>> > >>>>> > >>> > >>>>> > >>> > >>>>> > On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 2:29 PM, Joe Bowser >>><bows...@gmail.com> >>> > wrote: >>> > >>>>> > >>> > >>>>> >> On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 2:22 PM, Brion Vibber < >>> > bvib...@wikimedia.org> >>> > >>>>> >> wrote: >>> > >>>>> >> > >>> > >>>>> >> > I would not mind dropping 2.1; our apps for Wikipedia have >>> been >>> > 2.2+ >>> > >>>>> >> anyway >>> > >>>>> >> > due to breakages in the 2.1 browser. >>> > >>>>> >> > >>> > >>>>> >> > 3/3.2 would be slightly sad to miss only because there are >>> > Honeycomb >>> > >>>>> >> > tablets that haven't received ICS updates, including my >>>Galaxy >>> > Tab >>> > >>>>> 10.1 >>> > >>>>> >> but >>> > >>>>> >> > ... let's be honest there's not a lot of them out there. >>>I'm >>> > not sure >>> > >>>>> >> how >>> > >>>>> >> > to blacklist those particular versions in the >>>AndroidManifest >>> > however >>> > >>>>> >> while >>> > >>>>> >> > still being compatible with 2.2/2.3... >>> > >>>>> >> > >>> > >>>>> >> >>> > >>>>> >> That's a very good point. I'm almost convinced that the >>>3.1 on >>> > >>>>> >> Google's dashboard is literally the Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 >>> > devices >>> > >>>>> >> that Google gave away at IO a couple of years ago that were >>> pretty >>> > >>>>> >> much orphaned by Samsung because they had a broken build. >>> > >>>>> >> >>> > >>>>> >> By far, Honeycomb was probably the worst version of Android >>> ever, >>> > and >>> > >>>>> >> I've been using it since 1.0 and remember how bad 2.0 was >>>when >>> it >>> > >>>>> >> first came out on the Droid/Milestone. We can't even >>>deprecate >>> it >>> > >>>>> >> cleanly. >>> > >>>>> >> >>> > >>>>> > >>> > >>>>> > >>> > >>>>> >>> > >>>