Thanks for the feedback, and for giving it a shot! I'll look into teasing out those transitions and possibly putting them in separate dances. I'm not a huge fan of chain->swing; although the gyre there would make it more forgiving. B2 could be "ladies chain->left hand star 1x" or "circle left 3 places, balance, pass through". Both of those are pretty common transitions for B2.
A slightly more unusual sequence for B2 that shares the work a bit more would be gents chain across (pull by left), gents start 1/2 hey by left shoulder. I think that would require an extra large loop at the end of the hey to flow into the gyre. Could just be a balance at the A1 though. Not sure how I'd feel about two different half heys (one by rights in the middle, one by lefts) in a dance that's already got unusual things going on. But thank you again all for kicking it around with me. On Tue, Mar 5, 2019 at 1:46 AM QuiAnn2 <quia...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi, Luke (and others)! > > Jeremy Korr called this on Saturday night and I danced it as a Lady/Raven > with a partner who was not a switcher so I can comment on it as a Lady > dancer but not from the Gents/Larks perspective. > > I generally liked the dance. The flow was good and it was nice to have > different types of transitions. The promenade=>see saw=>1/2 was a very fun > series. From the time that Jeremy described that series to me during the > break until the time that he called it in the 2nd half, I was very much > looking forward to trying it out, and it was great! The A1 N Rt Sh Round to > a swing worked well coming out of the ladies’ allemande because we had to > walk a couple of steps to get to our next N. It was good to have fuzzy > timing there rather than a B&Sw, otherwise we would have had to take big > steps or run a bit. > > Some areas for improvement are that it felt to me like the ladies were > doing a lot of the work with the DSD and the allemande, which are both > unassisted figures where you’re fighting against rotational pull as opposed > to a chain which is all forward movement with an assist from the courtesy > turn. I couldn’t switch roles to test it but a N lady (who knew this was a > test dance) independently said to me “the ladies are doing a lot of work”. > Also, both times the ladies approach each other (in the A2 and the B2), > they are effectively coming out of a swing (if we can agree that LLF&B is > neutral) and walking towards each other with the left shoulder leading so > you had to think “Is this the DSD? Or is this the left allemande?" > > Just brainstorming here but maybe replace the ladies allem with a ladies > chain in the B2? I know this takes away from the “new transitions” idea > that you had but I think the “gem” of this dance is the A2 & B1 and the > rest is gravy to support it. > > Jacqui Grennan > > > On Mar 1, 2019, at 7:50 AM, Gregory Frock via Callers < > firstname.lastname@example.org> wrote: > > Hi Luke, > > I think this is a great accessible dance. Flow is fine, and I actually > feel that getting too much "rightward" muscle memory is not a good thing. > Symmetry is better for our bodies in the long run. So FWIW, thumbs up for > me. And I will try it out at one of my next two gigs 3/8 or 3/13. > > Regards, > > Greg > > On Fri, Mar 1, 2019 at 10:00 AM Luke Donforth via Callers < > email@example.com> wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> I was thinking about standard transitions; and how similar flows could >> possibly be created while still adding variation to our dance diet. >> >> Chain-> (1x or 1/2) hey -> balance and swing works well; but gyre & swing >> doesn't work well there, because you've set up left shoulder at the end of >> the hey. >> >> allemande left -> (1x or 1/2) hey -> (gyre &) swing works reasonably, >> because you've set up the other shoulder in the hey. >> >> What about coming into the hey from a Sea-Saw? For instance: >> >> Contra/Improper >> >> A1 ----------- >> (16) Neighbor gyre and swing >> A2 ----------- >> (8) Promenade across the Set >> (8) Ladies Sea-Saw 1.5x >> B1 ----------- >> (8) 1/2 Hey, ladies passing partner right shoulders >> (8) Partner swing >> B2 ----------- >> (8) Long lines, forward and back >> (8) Ladies allemande Left 1-1/2 >> >> I think that flows well, but I don't have dancers to play with at the >> moment. If anyone more used to dancing the traditional ladies roll wants to >> talk about muscle memory and flow, I'd appreciate it. Would the sea saw and >> left allemande just be too outside the realm of familiar to be fun? >> >> Assuming this is a new composition that works, I'll call it Sinister >> Ravens. >> >> Thanks for your thoughts. >> >> >> -- >> Luke Donforth >> luke.donfo...@gmail.com <luke.do...@gmail.com> >> _______________________________________________ >> List Name: Callers mailing list >> List Address: Callers@lists.sharedweight.net >> Archives: https://firstname.lastname@example.org/ >> > _______________________________________________ > List Name: Callers mailing list > List Address: Callers@lists.sharedweight.net > Archives: https://email@example.com/ > > > -- Luke Donforth luke.donfo...@gmail.com <luke.do...@gmail.com>
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