I consider it part of my job as a fiddler to be ready when the caller is ready to start the dance. Though there can be something to recommend giving people time to talk to each other between dances, there are some fast paced urban dances where folks seem to prefer launching right in to the next dance. They do their talking during the walk-through, or during the dance. (I like those kinds of dances evenings myself!) That's why we use amplification! More music and dancing, people can talk anytime. Though I was recently on stage with another fiddler who told the caller to slow down because we weren't used to working together, and it was challenging to pick tunes in time. Always useful to have the odd joke in your pocket..." the frog who says: "if you kiss me I'll turn into a handsome contradance caller" and the fiddler who says: "you're worth more to me as a talking frog!" well, you get the idea...
Enjoying the list,
Amy Larkin

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Today's Topics:

   1. slow down... (Chris Weiler)
   2. Re: slow down... (Peter Amidon)
   3. Re: slow down... (Dan Black)


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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 06:57:01 -0400
From: Chris Weiler <[email protected]>
Subject: [Callers] slow down...
To: Shared Weight <[email protected]>
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Had an interesting gig this weekend (a good one, just interesting). Things were going along smoothly, I thought. The fiddler had made a comment earlier that I had a high ratio of playing time to down time, but I didn't think much of it. Before we started the 2nd to last dance of the first half, and I was waiting for the band to be ready to start the music, the fiddler snaps at me that I'm teaching too fast and it's much to stressful for choosing tunes! I looked him straight in the eye, apologized, and then promised to slow down. I spent the next bit of time trying to figure out how to slow down. Couldn't think of too many ways. I slowed my pace of teaching down. I made sure to take a minute and talk to the band before even requesting that people line up. I introduced the band before the next dance (although this probably didn't add any time for the fiddler to think about tune selection).

We made nice at the break and he explained that he was under stress in other areas of his life. I had done my homework (so I thought) and done my pre-dance interview - turns out with the wrong musician! The fiddler was the real leader and he had shown up at the last minute and was too busy setting up to talk.

Some other fun points: I announced in the 2nd half that we were going to dance Chorus Jig and the crowd ohhhed and ahhhed and scrambled to line up!! For the 2nd dance of the evening, we had about 15-20 kids show up. Some had danced before and they did fine! I had to adjust my language because I would call a ladies chain and a bunch of the dancers would go over and back. 8^)

All in all a fun dance! I'd love to hear your thoughts about slowing down the teaching for musicians who need more time for tune selection. Any techniques? Since I really try to match my dances to the level of the dancers, I rarely need a 2nd walkthrough. And since I time my teaching off of the dancer's speed of doing the moves (calling the next while they're finishing the previous move), not much time to add there.

Happy Dancing!

Chris Weiler
Goffstown, NH
www.chrisweiler.ws




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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 07:31:09 -0400
From: Peter Amidon <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Callers] slow down...
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When I first called in Greenfield I was filling in for David Kaynor,
and Mary Cay, wanting to keep it a David Kaynor-styled dance, said
that David always let the folks chat for a bit after they have lined
up.  Now I do that at all my dances.  I just stand there and do
nothing for a while.  A touch of Zen.

This makes the evening more relaxed and social, helps keep the
dancers from getting exhausted, gives the musicians more time
to figure out their music, and allows me to do a mental rehearsal
of the teaching and calling of the dance before I do a walk through.

I think walk throughs should always be efficient.  I only slow
them down when that benefits the dancers.

Thanks for the interesting question.

-Peter Amidon

Had an interesting gig this weekend (a good one, just interesting).
Things were going along smoothly, I thought. The fiddler had made a
comment earlier that I had a high ratio of playing time to down time,
but I didn't think much of it. Before we started the 2nd to last dance
of the first half, and I was waiting for the band to be ready to start
the music, the fiddler snaps at me that I'm teaching too fast and it's
much to stressful for choosing tunes! I looked him straight in the eye,
apologized, and then promised to slow down. I spent the next bit of time
trying to figure out how to slow down. Couldn't think of too many ways.
I slowed my pace of teaching down. I made sure to take a minute and talk
to the band before even requesting that people line up. I introduced the
band before the next dance (although this probably didn't add any time
for the fiddler to think about tune selection).

We made nice at the break and he explained that he was under stress in
other areas of his life. I had done my homework (so I thought) and done
my pre-dance interview - turns out with the wrong musician! The fiddler
was the real leader and he had shown up at the last minute and was too
busy setting up to talk.

Some other fun points: I announced in the 2nd half that we were going to
dance Chorus Jig and the crowd ohhhed and ahhhed and scrambled to line
up!! For the 2nd dance of the evening, we had about 15-20 kids show up.
Some had danced before and they did fine! I had to adjust my language
because I would call a ladies chain and a bunch of the dancers would go
over and back. 8^)

All in all a fun dance! I'd love to hear your thoughts about slowing
down the teaching for musicians who need more time for tune selection.
Any techniques? Since I really try to match my dances to the level of
the dancers, I rarely need a 2nd walkthrough. And since I time my
teaching off of the dancer's speed of doing the moves (calling the next
while they're finishing the previous move), not much time to add there.

Happy Dancing!

Chris Weiler
Goffstown, NH
www.chrisweiler.ws


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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 05:08:52 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dan Black <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Callers] slow down...
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Chris,

I have had the band comment time to play again so soon.  Since we have similiar 
professions, efficiency is so important.  Just standing there is a challenge for 
me.  When it is hot like it was this Sat in Bethlehem Pa, I have to force myself to 
let the dancers talks for a minute or two.  Also, I forget the band may want to 
talk to each other.  The band was the Contrapolitans with Rich Mohr sitting in, 
they were incredible and had alot of fun on stage.  There was a few times I just 
had to watch the clock and not say anything until the digital clock on stage 
changed to the next minute.  It was reassuring noticing the dancers talking all 
along the line and letting them talk for a minute or so felt good to me.  It may 
benefit me to reread the section of Give & Take regarding time management.  For 
a numbers guy like me, this information was so helpful.  Thanks for the reminder 
Chris

----- Original Message ----
From: Chris Weiler <[email protected]>
To: Shared Weight <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2007 6:57:01 AM
Subject: [Callers] slow down...


Had an interesting gig this weekend (a good one, just interesting). Things were going along smoothly, I thought. The fiddler had made a comment earlier that I had a high ratio of playing time to down time, but I didn't think much of it. Before we started the 2nd to last dance of the first half, and I was waiting for the band to be ready to start the music, the fiddler snaps at me that I'm teaching too fast and it's much to stressful for choosing tunes! I looked him straight in the eye, apologized, and then promised to slow down. I spent the next bit of time trying to figure out how to slow down. Couldn't think of too many ways. I slowed my pace of teaching down. I made sure to take a minute and talk to the band before even requesting that people line up. I introduced the band before the next dance (although this probably didn't add any time for the fiddler to think about tune selection).

We made nice at the break and he explained that he was under stress in other areas of his life. I had done my homework (so I thought) and done my pre-dance interview - turns out with the wrong musician! The fiddler was the real leader and he had shown up at the last minute and was too busy setting up to talk.

Some other fun points: I announced in the 2nd half that we were going to dance Chorus Jig and the crowd ohhhed and ahhhed and scrambled to line up!! For the 2nd dance of the evening, we had about 15-20 kids show up. Some had danced before and they did fine! I had to adjust my language because I would call a ladies chain and a bunch of the dancers would go over and back. 8^)

All in all a fun dance! I'd love to hear your thoughts about slowing down the teaching for musicians who need more time for tune selection. Any techniques? Since I really try to match my dances to the level of the dancers, I rarely need a 2nd walkthrough. And since I time my teaching off of the dancer's speed of doing the moves (calling the next while they're finishing the previous move), not much time to add there.

Happy Dancing!

Chris Weiler
Goffstown, NH
www.chrisweiler.ws


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