When you wear orthodics, or need inserts, 'normal' shoes need not apply. It can 
become a real issue.  In these cases you make do with what works as a good 
supportive shoe and - adapt the sole for dance.

Laurie

--- On Fri, 7/4/08, Martha Wild <[email protected]> wrote:

> From: Martha Wild <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [Callers] Callers Digest, Vol 47, Issue 2
> To: [email protected]
> Date: Friday, July 4, 2008, 12:53 PM
> Stacy,
> Depends what you like - I tend to like flatter shoes with
> little heel  
> (the 1/2" heel), other women like more of a heel (say
> 1 1/4"). Both  
> sorts can be found in the Square and Round Dance category,
> quite  
> contra apropos. I have a whole raft of the Mary Janes
> because you can  
> special order them in multiple colors and in WIDE
> widths!!!! And you  
> can get the Mary Jane's either as dance shoes, with the
> leather sole,  
> or as street shoes with a hard sole, and I have a bunch of
> those for  
> non-dance as well. On the other hand, if you want a Ginger
> Rogers- 
> esque shoe for that New Year's Eve contra, you can
> check out the  
> ballroom group, or get funky with the mint-colored or
> two-tone Lindy  
> Hop series, or go country with boots. Oh, and did I say
> that they are  
> comfortable? It's a smorgasbord of terpsichorean
> delight. And a  
> variety of nice and comfy shoes for men, too.
> Martha
> 
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> > Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2008 13:40:50 -0700
> > From: "Stacy Rose"
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> > Subject: Re: [Callers] Callers Digest, Vol 46, Issue
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> > Martha - this looks like a great resource. Of the
> different styles,  
> > which
> > are conducive for contra dancing?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Stacy Rose
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: [email protected]
> [mailto:callers-
> >> [email protected]] On Behalf Of Martha Wild
> >> Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 10:28 PM
> >> To: [email protected]
> >> Subject: Re: [Callers] Callers Digest, Vol 46,
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> >> I recommend TicTacToes - check out all the dancing
> shoes they have
> >> available at TicTacToes.com - I've bought
> quite a few pair from them,
> >> and they are comfortable and have great
> suede/leather soles and all
> >> sorts of styles and colors and widths. They have
> shoes for men and
> >> women - they have them for all kinds of dancing,
> from ballroom to tap
> >> to country Western. I can't dance in tennis
> shoes because since they
> >> don't slip well I end up tweaking my right
> knee when doing buzz step
> >> swings. And the prices are about usual for shoes.
> >> Martha
> >>
> >> On Jun 25, 2008, at 9:00 AM,
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> >>>    1. Shoes (Rickey)
> >>>    2. Re: Shoes (Mortland, Jo)
> >>>    3. Re: Shoes (Laur)
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> >>> Message: 1
> >>> Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 16:01:58 -0400
> >>> From: "Rickey"
> <[email protected]>
> >>> Subject: [Callers] Shoes
> >>> To: <[email protected]>
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> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>> I am considering buying my first pair of shoes
> bought expressly for
> >>> contra
> >>> dancing.  What do you recommend?  What do you
> think of suede
> >>> soles?  I need
> >>> good arch support. Whatever I buy would also
> need to be acceptable
> >>> to dance
> >>> organizers in need of protecting their
> venue's floors.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>>
> >>> Rickey Holt.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ------------------------------
> >>>
> >>> Message: 2
> >>> Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 15:10:20 -0500
> >>> From: "Mortland, Jo"
> <[email protected]>
> >>> Subject: Re: [Callers] Shoes
> >>> To: "Caller's discussion list"
> <[email protected]>
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> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I need to wear orthotics in my every day shoes
> for arch support.
> >>>
> >>> So when I buy new shoes, I take the old pair,
> one that accommodates
> >>> the
> >>> orthotics, to a shoe clinic.  I ask for
> "dance leather" (suede)  
> >>> to be
> >>> affixed to the bottoms of the shoes, but only
> from the toe to the  
> >>> arch
> >>> (not the heel).  This way I have support and a
> great surface for
> >>> swinging.  Costs me about $30.00.  and I keep
> updating my dance
> >>> shoes as
> >>> I purchase new regular wear ones.  (I wear SAS
> shoes.  I used to
> >>> have a
> >>> pair of Rockports with which I did the same
> thing.)
> >>>
> >>> Jo Mortland
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ------------------------------
> >>>
> >>> Message: 3
> >>> Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 17:05:24 -0700 (PDT)
> >>> From: Laur <[email protected]>
> >>> Subject: Re: [Callers] Shoes
> >>> To: Caller's discussion list
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> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I sent an earlier message off list -
> >>>
> >>> Same goes for me.
> >>>
> >>> In my case I buy a good supportive tennis
> shoe, but I have swede
> >>> put on the bottom of the whole shoe.  It just
> works for me.  And it
> >>> also costs about 30-40 depending on who you go
> to.
> >>>
> >>> I have in the past put leather on a vinyl
> bottomed shoe.
> >>>
> >>> Of course, if you have a pair of shoes that
> work for you - old
> >>> sneakers, just put duct tape on them.  I did
> that for nine years.
> >>> It worked just fine.
> >>>
> >>> Laurie
> >>> GR
> >>>
> >>> --- On Tue, 6/24/08, Mortland, Jo
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> From: Mortland, Jo
> <[email protected]>
> >>>> Subject: Re: [Callers] Shoes
> >>>> To: "Caller's discussion
> list" <[email protected]>
> >>>> Date: Tuesday, June 24, 2008, 4:10 PM
> >>>> I need to wear orthotics in my every day
> shoes for arch
> >>>> support.
> >>>>
> >>>> So when I buy new shoes, I take the old
> pair, one that
> >>>> accommodates the
> >>>> orthotics, to a shoe clinic.  I ask for
> "dance
> >>>> leather" (suede) to be
> >>>> affixed to the bottoms of the shoes, but
> only from the toe
> >>>> to the arch
> >>>> (not the heel).  This way I have support
> and a great
> >>>> surface for
> >>>> swinging.  Costs me about $30.00.  and I
> keep updating my
> >>>> dance shoes as
> >>>> I purchase new regular wear ones.  (I wear
> SAS shoes.  I
> >>>> used to have a
> >>>> pair of Rockports with which I did the
> same thing.)
> >>>>
> >>>> Jo Mortland
> >>>>
> >>>>
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> > Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2008 19:38:07 -0400
> > From: Jack Mitchell <[email protected]>
> > Subject: Re: [Callers] Any Whipperstompers out there?
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> > There's a great video online from the weekend at
> > http://whipperstompers.org/  That and Adina's
> description of the
> > weekend makes me wish that I had been able to make it
> (though I'm not
> > sure I would have survived the heat....)  Definitely
> interested in
> > going next year though if they have it again.  From a
> callers
> > perspective it sounds like just what I would have
> hoped it would be
> > and none of what I had worried it might be.
> >
> > That being said, the dance that Charlotte is calling
> in the video
> > looked like a good one, and is one that I don't
> have.  Anyone
> > recognize it?  What I got from the video is:
> >
> > Becket
> >
> > A1      P Gypsy and Sw
> > A2      L Chain
> >          LHS 1x
> > B1      New N B&S
> > B2      Gents chain
> >          1/2 Hey (gents start by left shoulder)
> >
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > Jack
> > At 02:20 AM 7/3/2008, you wrote:
> >> Hi Chris,
> >>
> >> Sorry it took me a week to respond about the
> >> Whipperstomper.  Lindsay, thanks!  I'm so glad
> you enjoyed it that
> >> much!  It was great to see you there.
> >>
> >> I went into the weekend with some reservations. 
> Who would
> >> come?  What would the general attitude be?  Would
> there be trouble
> >> with 100 teens and 20-somethings in a state park
> for the
> >> weekend?  Were people open to learning?  Would
> groups mix?  Was it
> >> going to be pro-youth, or anti-age?
> >>
> >> Short answers:  Everybody.  Positive.  Almost
> >> none.  Yes!  Yes.  Pro-youth.  I'm so
> impressed by what happened
> >> there I almost can't describe it.
> >>
> >> The general attitude of the weekend, coming from
> the organizers and
> >> effectively transmitted to the dancers, was that
> young dancers can
> >> be a positive force in their communities.  We
> talked about and
> >> worked on style, dance-floor safety, encouraging
> and helping each
> >> other, calling, playing for dances, and community
> >> involvement.  There was more intentional learning
> and discussion
> >> than at other weekends I've been at -- the
> purpose wasn't only to
> >> dance and have fun, but to build community, both
> with other young
> >> dancers and with the wider community.
> >>
> >> Dancers came from all over -- the majority from
> North and South
> >> Carolina, but also from Virginia, Maryland, New
> York, Massachusetts,
> >> Vermont, Indiana, Illinois, Ohio, and I think a
> couple other
> >> states.  New England was well-represented.  As
> Lindsay mentioned,
> >> especially on Friday night folks danced mainly
> with people they
> >> already knew, but by Sunday it was a typical dance
> weekend
> >> love-fest.  I was looking at the leaders of
> tomorrow's dance
> >> community meeting each other, making connections,
> and becoming
> >> friends, and I left feeling really good about the
> future of
> >> Anglo-American folk dance.
> >>
> >> Lindsay mentioned both the heat & lack of
> fans, and the passion he
> >> saw.  Those are interrelated.
> >>
> >> There were supposed to be huge box fans for the
> dance hall, borrowed
> >> from the Old Farmers Ball in Asheville, NC. 
> Unfortunately, 2 weeks
> >> before the Whipperstomper the ceiling collapsed in
> Bryson Hall at
> >> Warren Wilson College, where the OFB weekly dance
> is held and the
> >> fans are stored. 
> (http://www.oldfarmersball.com/bryson_update.htm
> >> for more information.)  Truly miraculously, no-one
> was injured in
> >> what could have been a devastating catastrophe;
> school had ended a
> >> week earlier and the collapse happened a few hours
> before a
> >> dance.  Bryson was quarantined, so there was no
> way to get the fans
> >> out.  Hence the passion Linsay mentioned:  In the
> sweltering
> >> heat  -- it was an uncooled hall in 90-some degree
> weather, without
> >> fans -- there were no complaints or early
> check-outs, and the
> >> dancers danced nonstop for hours.
> >>
> >> And -- holy cow!  What dancing!  I've never
> seen such great dancing
> >> in one place, and I say that as a dance gypsy and
> itinerant dance
> >> caller.  I've never called to a better group,
> anywhere.  These kids
> >> can DANCE!  (--and do it safely, and on time!)
> >>
> >> Watching the organizers through the process, from
> last fall til now,
> >> was exciting.  They did a great job, really
> matured in the process,
> >> and became even better leaders.  They came to see
> that their
> >> responsibility within the dance community
> doesn't end with age x;
> >> we're all in this together.  I'm
> enormously proud of them!  Keep in
> >> mind that the main organizer, who drove the entire
> process, turned
> >> 21 that weekend.  He showed incredible initiative
> and drive to make
> >> it happen, learned much more than he had
> anticipated in the process,
> >> and did a better job than most people probably
> would have
> >> expected.  For the future of the entire dance
> community, that
> >> experience was priceless.
> >>
> >> Having Ethan Hazzard-Watkins, the CDSS Youth
> Projects Intern, at the
> >> weekend was a real boon.  Some of the young
> dancers hadn't heard of
> >> CDSS, and Ethan added a lot in outreach,
> information, and helping
> >> make connections.  Hopefully it will translate
> both to more CDSS
> >> memberships and more participation in CDSS
> programs in the future.
> >>
> >> I call the Whipperstomper was a huge success, in
> numerous ways.  It
> >> was terrific fun, a new generation got immersed in
> organizing, the
> >> future leaders of our community made connections
> they'll have for
> >> the rest of their lives, and quite a few of those
> southern dancers
> >> will be making the trip to Vermont for the Youth
> Dance Weekend in
> >> September.  We started something good, and round 2
> is sure to be  
> >> even better!
> >>
> >> Please note that though the Youth Dance Weekend
> Sept. 12-14
> >> (http://youthdanceweekend.org/) is targeted at
> dancers under 35, it
> >> is not age-restricted.  Those over 35 are welcome
> to attend, with
> >> higher pricing.  The goal is to encourage younger
> dancers, and as
> >> younger people often have lower (or no) earnings,
> one suggestion is
> >> that older and more financially stable dancers
> consider paying the
> >> admission of a younger dancer.  If you're over
> 35 and still want to
> >> attend the weekend there are options available for
> you.
> >>
> >> Lindsay also mentioned the wonderful facilities at
> Table Rock State
> >> Park, in South Carolina.  Harvest Moon's
> annual dance weekend,
> >> Moondance, is also held there, Sept 5-7 2008.  A
> wonderful
> >> weekend! 
> http://www.harvestmoonfolk.org/moondanc.htm for more
> >> information.  Space is still available.
> >>
> >> Thanks for asking about the weekend, Chris.  I
> should add one more
> >> thing -- I'm reporting this from the
> perspective of one of 8 or 10
> >> people there over the age of 35, not one of the
> under-35
> >> in-crowd.  It was a real honor to call there.
> >>
> >> - Adina
> >> ---------
> >> Adina Gordon
> >> http://www.adinagordon.com/
> >>
> >>
> >> --- On Fri, 6/27/08,
> [email protected]
> >> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 10:08:56 -0400
> >>> From: "Chris Weiler (home)"
> >>> <[email protected]>
> >>> Subject: [Callers] Any Whipperstompers out
> there?
> >>>
> >>> Hello everyone,
> >>>
> >>> Anybody attend the Whipperstompers weekend a
> couple
> >>> of weeks ago in South Carolina? I talked with
> Adina
> >>> Gordon last night about it and she had some
> good things
> >>> to say. Adina, that's your cue to let us
> know how it went
> >>> and your impressions about what the organizers
> and
> >>> attendees took away from it. ;)
> >>>
> >>> Anyone else attend and want to share their
> experiences?
> >>>
> >>> Adina and I found out that we're both
> planning on
> >>> attending the Youth Dance Weekend in Vermont
> in
> >>> September. Anyone else going to be there?
> >>>
> >>> Happy Dancing,
> >>> Chris Weiler
> >>> Goffstown, NH
> >>>
> >>> ------------------------------
> >>>
> >>> Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 10:28:46 -0400
> >>> From: Lindsay Morris
> <[email protected]>
> >>> Subject: Re: [Callers] Any Whipperstompers out
> there?
> >>>
> >>> Whipperstompers was great!
> >>>
> >>> Adina was great - dance games were esp cool! -
> the band was
> >>> excellent, and the people were very fun.
> >>> A lot of Brasstown kids hung together; a
> couple of people
> >>> felt a little excluded by them, but when
> you've got all
> >>> that history, yeah, it's hard not to bond
> even more....
> >>>
> >>> Hot - some big box fans would have been
> great...
> >>>
> >>> I wish I had camped - beautiful campsites
> close together.
> >>> Table Rock is a great facility.
> >>>
> >>> <rant>
> >>> Groups that meet for primarily social reasons
> die (or might
> >>> as well).  Groups that share a passion for
> something grow.
> >>> </rant>
> >>>
> >>> When I sat out and just watched the dancers at
> >>> Whipperstompers, wow! Lots of passion there. 
> Big
> >>> buckets of gotta-dance just overflowing.
> >>>
> >>> Our contra-dance language continues to morph
> and grow,
> >>> beautifully. Lots of contact-improv and swing
> creeping in.
> >>> Outright theatrics, ending just in time to
> meet the next...
> >>>
> >>> Many of these kids  youngsters  dancers grew
> up sleeping on
> >>> the corner of the stage, reels seeping into
> their
> >>> motion-fibers from age 1. So it's no
> wonder they move
> >>> at such a high level.  Beautiful to watch.
> >>>
> >>> We ARE part of a golden age, as someone said
> recently.
> >>
> >>
> >>
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> > Message: 3
> > Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 18:31:42 -0700
> > From: "Chris Page"
> <[email protected]>
> > Subject: Re: [Callers] Any Whipperstompers out there?
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> > On 7/3/08, Jack Mitchell
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>  That being said, the dance that Charlotte is
> calling in the video  
> >> looked
> >> like a good one, and is one that I don't have.
>  Anyone recognize it?
> >
> > The Broken Mirror by Bill Olson.
> >
> > http://full.pamweeks.com/mirror.html
> >
> >
> > -Chris Page
> > San Diego
> >
> >
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