To return to that responsibility issue - I didn't say the caller was to blame, you know. Taking responsibility is subtly different from being to blame.

It is also the caller's responsibility to determine how much "chaos" can be tolerated in the dance. Sometimes you decide that even if the walkthrough isn't perfectly solid, the music will straighten things out and even if the first one or two times might be rocky, it will even out and will be worth getting the hall dancing. With experience it gets easier to decide when to make that call. In the situation with a huge hall and hundreds of dancers, even with good teaching and calling, a breakdown in a line where there is a sudden confluence of confused people may almost be certain to happen sometime in a night - the question then becomes whether consistent clear calling will allow the neighboring dancers to clear out the situation - and often it does. And occasionally in a huge hall, the decision has to be made that stopping the dance that is going gangbusters for 90% of the people, with great energy and great music, and has ground to a halt for 10%, is no longer a good idea. With luck, in a huge hall, some of the "defunct" dancers can run to the end of a working line and get going again.

Now drunken dancers - that's actually more the managers' responsibility, though a caller may want to alert the managers if they are unawares. As a manager once I did have to ask a drunken dancer to "please sit out for a while until you're feeling better", whereupon he left, which was fine with everyone. That rarely happens here, thankfully.

I did do a gig from hell where I was hired to call a contra for an American Airlines sales convention. It was in a large outdoor tent where they had various "fun" activities for the attendees, including a rock wall to climb, some county fair arcade type games, loads of alcohol, and, because one of their associates had suggested it, contra-dancing. Or at least that's what it was supposed to be. They put down a small parquet floor about 9 by 9 foot wide - I begged the people putting it up to add some extra panels, so it ended up 12 by 12. Aside from that the surface was just hard-packed dirt or grass. Had a nice old-timey band of my friends playing. People enjoyed the music and that brought them over to the "dance floor". But they kept getting drunker as the night went on. I would teach some simple dance, often a square (which fit best on the floor) and start it going, and suddenly a few more inebriated people would wander into it and start dancing, grabbing the other people and swinging them around, and I'd just have to make stuff up to try to accommodate everyone on the fly. It was sort of like the never-ending running set. Or maybe the never-ending stumbling set. Gave new meaning to the term "reel". In retrospect they all seemed to be having a good time, but I was just trying to keep people from hurling each other off the floor (or onto it) or smashing into other dancers in their drunken exuberance. The bartenders nearby came over at the end and told us how much they enjoyed the music, which was nice of them. It was a funny gig - I had gotten a call from a woman who said they wanted to hire a caller and some musicians for this event, but they couldn't pay more than $700, take it or leave it. So we took it, and I certainly earned my keep on that one. Can't say that I felt I was to blame for any of it - but I did continue to be responsible for trying to call some semblance of a dance.

Martha

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   5. New Dance (Rich Goss)
   6. sometimes not the caller's fault! (Lewis Land)
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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2010 20:04:18 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dan Pearl <[email protected]>
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Until very recently, I thought "it is always the caller's fault". The problem with absolutes like "always" is that a counterexample jumps up and hits you in the face.

I like (and use) the tactics for putting out fires that others recommended: Beef up the calling (earlier, more directional, more complete), NOT calling to the late group, etc. Not mentioned here yet is the old "manual intervention". I use a wireless mic, and that allows me to move around, hopefully addressing issues before they erupt in flames, but also providing an in-your-face hard-to- ignore knowledgeable guide post.

If you ever read Asimov's Foundation Trilogy, you'll remember that the science of psychohistory which allowed practitioners to essentially predict the future of civilizations was compromised by a random mutation ("The Mule"). I was thinking of that a few Saturdays ago when I was calling for a challenging dance. I don't mean challenging to the dancers: I mean challenging to me to call! It was a regular dance series, and the "regulars" weren't there, and there were lots of new dancers. That's OK with me; I do that all the time. I found myself presenting pretty easy stuff, and astonishingly, I needed to make it easier as the evening went on. I was running out of easier-than-dead-easy material. That's also OK -- I know how to write dances on the fly. What I was not prepared for was a concentration of dancers that needed special handling.

One dancer, an older fellow who had been dancing for some time, was literally moving in slow motion, and in a time delay so that the people around him were sucked into his rift in the time-space continuum. Another dancer, a newcomer who seemed to "get it" initially, began careening in random directions at high speed, with a great big smile on her face. Another new gentleman, also after seemingly "getting it", started to regress to periods of non- movement. I moved right next to him and said "right hand star", putting my own hand out to model the action. He just stood there and repeated "right hand star".

This made me think about, and question, the assumption that the caller is always at fault. Perhaps that is a fine mental state to be in (that is, not blaming the dancers), but you know, the conduct of the evening is not, and cannot be entirely one person's responsibility. A dance is like a machine with many moving parts, and they need to be functioning in expected ways for a smooth experience. Mistakes? They are part of what the machine does. I have more trouble when communication that has worked before begins to fail, when lessons learned are forgotten, and when other unexpected behaviors arise.

So this was one of the least fun, least rewarding gigs in my 30 years of calling. I chalk it up to an unfortunate confluence of factors likely not to be repeated for another 30 years.


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Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2010 20:36:55 -0700
From: "Leda Shapiro" <[email protected]>
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Subject: Re: [Callers] Putting Out Fires
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Thank you for reminding us that we, after all, are human...and sometimes those there does seem to be a random mutation in one evening...and yes,
have read Asimov's Trilogy -in fact I read all three more than once.

Thankfully there are all those other nights to remember!

One every 30 years ain't bad..
Leda


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Subject: Re: [Callers] Putting Out Fires

If you ever read Asimov's Foundation Trilogy, you'll remember that the
science of psychohistory which allowed practitioners to essentially predict
the future of civilizations was compromised by a random mutation ("The
Mule"). I was thinking of that a few Saturdays ago when I was calling for a
challenging dance.  I don't mean challenging to the dancers: I mean
challenging to me to call!  It was a regular dance series, and the
"regulars" weren't there, and there were lots of new dancers. That's OK with me; I do that all the time. I found myself presenting pretty easy stuff, and astonishingly, I needed to make it easier as the evening went on. I was running out of easier-than-dead-easy material. That's also OK -- I
know how to write dances on the fly. What I was not prepared for was a
concentration of dancers that needed special handling.

One dancer, an older fellow who had been dancing for some time, was
literally moving in slow motion, and in a time delay so that the people around him were sucked into his rift in the time-space continuum. Another dancer, a newcomer who seemed to "get it" initially, began careening in
random directions at high speed, with a great big smile on her face.
Another new gentleman, also after seemingly "getting it", started to regress to periods of non-movement. I moved right next to him and said "right hand star", putting my own hand out to model the action. He just stood there and
repeated "right hand star".

This made me think about, and question, the assumption that the caller is always at fault. Perhaps that is a fine mental state to be in (that is, not blaming the dancers), but you know, the conduct of the evening is not, and cannot be entirely one person's responsibility. A dance is like a machine with many moving parts, and they need to be functioning in expected ways for a smooth experience. Mistakes? They are part of what the machine does. I have more trouble when communication that has worked before begins to fail, when lessons learned are forgotten, and when other unexpected behaviors
arise.

So this was one of the least fun, least rewarding gigs in my 30 years of calling. I chalk it up to an unfortunate confluence of factors likely not to
be repeated for another 30 years.
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Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2010 01:46:14 -0400
From: J L Korr <[email protected]>
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Sorry, folks, but this conversation is pushing a personal button about not using words like "always" and "never" unless it's truly so. I completely agree with Greg, Martha, and others that in general, the caller does and should bear responsibility for problems on the dance floor. But I can't agree that this is always the case. Consider these two scenarios, among others:

1) In a large dance hall at a festival with 500 dancers, one of ten contra lines begins to break down when pairs of less experienced dancers happen to meet simultaneously in three different minor sets and become confused. The rest of the hall is fine. The caller can't intervene personally by, for example, running out on the floor.

2) During the 12:15 am - 2:00 am set at the Falcon Ridge Folk Festival, again with hundreds of dancers, the caller calls a relatively easy dance requiring little thought. Some dancers, who are in a range of mental states from alcohol, etc., have trouble staying oriented and coordinated, causing recurring problems in their sets.

I'd argue that in these contexts, though the dance floor itself is experiencing a breakdown, the caller hasn't done anything wrong, nor does s/he have the responsibility of fixing the problem. In the first scenario, the caller must select dances for and call to the broadest possible swath of dancers among those present, recognizing that some minor problems are inevitable. In the second scenario, the inebriated dancers are entitled to participate in the dance at that venue, and there's little the caller can do to improve their mental coordination.

So I'd say the caller almost always has responsibility for problems that occur in the hall, but in certain scenarios does not, or at least has limited responsibility relative to most situations. --Jeremy

From: Martha Wild <[email protected]>

Oh, yes, and it's always the caller's responsibility.

From: Greg McKenzie <[email protected]>

There are never fires in the hall--only in your own mind.  If there
is trouble anywhere in the hall it is because you have screwed
up...somewhere. <snip> The caller should take full responsibility for
the gaff.

                                        
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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2010 06:31:29 -0400
From: "Chris Weiler (home)" <[email protected]>
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Subject: Re: [Callers] Not always the caller's fault!
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I think there needs to be a distinction between what is really happening
in the hall and the stance that we take from the microphone. There are
hundreds of variables that are all outside of our control at a dance. We
pretend to have control, but all we can do is influence. It is our
responsibility to use that influence to try and help everyone have a lot
of fun. But you're not going to be able to stop some problems from
happening.

That said, there is a lot of power in taking responsibility from the
microphone for problems, even when it's not your fault. Some have been
listed here already. It puts people at ease. They can relax and enjoy
the next dance without being overly focused on what went wrong. It
reinforces your authority when lines falling apart are creating a
feeling of chaos. And sometimes, it really is your fault. ;)

I had this happen at a recent dance. I called a very simple dance, but
it is constructed symmetrically, so sometimes it can be difficult to
know if you're in the As or the Bs. The second time through the dance, I called "neighbor" instead of "partner" and half the hall believed me and
the other half didn't. Everyone was in a different place very quickly.
After seeing that I couldn't get everyone back to the same place to
recover after a couple of attempts, I stopped the music and immediately announced "Sorry, folks, my fault completely. Let's try this again." The
crowd erupted in applause! They lined up and we started again without
any further trouble. People respond to humility and to people who take
responsibility for their actions. It humanizes you in their eyes and
they'll cut you a lot of slack for it.

Chris Weiler
Goffstown, NH


J L Korr wrote:
Sorry, folks, but this conversation is pushing a personal button about not using words like "always" and "never" unless it's truly so. I completely agree with Greg, Martha, and others that in general, the caller does and should bear responsibility for problems on the dance floor. But I can't agree that this is always the case. Consider these two scenarios, among others:

1) In a large dance hall at a festival with 500 dancers, one of ten contra lines begins to break down when pairs of less experienced dancers happen to meet simultaneously in three different minor sets and become confused. The rest of the hall is fine. The caller can't intervene personally by, for example, running out on the floor.

2) During the 12:15 am - 2:00 am set at the Falcon Ridge Folk Festival, again with hundreds of dancers, the caller calls a relatively easy dance requiring little thought. Some dancers, who are in a range of mental states from alcohol, etc., have trouble staying oriented and coordinated, causing recurring problems in their sets.

I'd argue that in these contexts, though the dance floor itself is experiencing a breakdown, the caller hasn't done anything wrong, nor does s/he have the responsibility of fixing the problem. In the first scenario, the caller must select dances for and call to the broadest possible swath of dancers among those present, recognizing that some minor problems are inevitable. In the second scenario, the inebriated dancers are entitled to participate in the dance at that venue, and there's little the caller can do to improve their mental coordination.

So I'd say the caller almost always has responsibility for problems that occur in the hall, but in certain scenarios does not, or at least has limited responsibility relative to most situations. --Jeremy


From: Martha Wild <[email protected]>



Oh, yes, and it's always the caller's responsibility.



From: Greg McKenzie <[email protected]>



There are never fires in the hall--only in your own mind.  If there
is trouble anywhere in the hall it is because you have screwed
up...somewhere. <snip> The caller should take full responsibility for
the gaff.


                                        
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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2010 07:15:21 -0700
From: Rich Goss <[email protected]>
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Subject: [Callers] New Dance
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Wrote this dance recently in honor of one of our dancers who recently passed
away, Betty Stewart.  Has this one already been written?

Betty?s Night Out ? Rich Goss
Improper, Double Prog

A1: Neighbor Dosido and Swing (end facing down hall)
A2: Down hall 4-in-line, turn as couples; Return, face across
B1: 1/2 Hey, Gents Ricochet Back (Ladies cross rt sh)
    Partner swing
B2: Circle Left 3/4
    As Couples, zig left, zag right, zig left


Rich, Portland Or




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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2010 08:15:03 -0600
From: Lewis Land <[email protected]>
To: Caller's discussion list <[email protected]>
Cc: J L Korr <[email protected]>
Subject: [Callers] sometimes not the caller's fault!
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Regarding J L Korr's message observing that it's not always the caller's
fault, he is completely correct. The point Greg and I were trying to
make is that the caller is sort of like the conductor in an orchestra,
the person who is ultimately responsible for making everything go
smoothly and happen on time.

Things don't always go smoothly, of course. Where I call we often have a
group consisting of more than 50% newcomers, and when I tell them that
any mistakes in the dance are always the caller's fault, it's my way of putting the newcomers at ease and making them feel welcome. Some people that show up have never done any kind of dancing before, in their entire
lives (these are usually guys), and the prospect of community dancing
can be quite intimidating. Based on my own experience when I first
started contra dancing, I try to make it clear to the novices that we're
a very non-judgmental group, so even the most catastrophic missteps on
their part are ultimately my responsibility.

That said, at almost every dance I've called I have found myself rolling
my eyes at the sight of, for example, some dancer who has been showing
up regularly for /years/, and still has no sense of timing (again,
usually a guy), or the group of young, inexperienced dancers who insist
on dancing exclusively with each other, disrupting the entire line
because they seem to think contra is somewhat like break dancing. There are plenty of times when incompetent dancers screw things up, and during
post-dance conversations with our other caller I will rant about them
unmercifully. But at the dance the best thing I can do is try to project an air of confidence and let people know everything's going to be fine, and fun. It's very similar to the attitude I tried to project when I was
raising teenage children.

One final comment: I sometimes find myself dancing in a venue where the
caller is very experienced and is obviously experimenting with new and
challenging dances, at a level that is clearly incompatible with the
experience level of most of the dancers in the hall. I think this is
very self-indulgent. We all need to grow as callers, but the best
callers can gauge the experience level of the group and call
appropriately. Some of my best calling experiences have involved calling
a dance that I've labeled "painfully easy", and afterward having a new
dancer come up to thank me for my calling and tell me what a wonderful
time they've had. That's really what it's all about. -Lewis Land


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Message: 7
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2010 08:57:15 -0700
From: Greg McKenzie <[email protected]>
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Thanks to all who spoke up, for bringing this
issue into more clarity.  ?It?s always the
caller?s fault,? is a clever line that is often
misunderstood.  Too many callers see it as a
throw-away gesture that has a laudable sentiment, but no real substance.

It might be more accurate, and more useful to
say: ?The caller always takes full responsibility
for anything that happens in the hall.?

This posture is one with a history that grows out
of the caller?s role as the master of
ceremonies.  MCs have always understood the need
for taking responsibility as part of their task
of holding the attention of the hall.  This is
how they maintain their position of
leadership.  It was with the development of
amplified public address systems that this
responsibility became much more salient and much
more necessary.  When speaking with a microphone
the emcee has the awesome power of projecting
their thoughts into the minds of all present,
with little effort.  This ability comes with a
great responsibility of leadership, and
professional emcees have learned that their role
is to always speak on behalf of the interests of
everyone in the hall.  That means taking full
responsibility for anything that goes wrong.

How can the caller take responsibility for
everything that happens?  If the toilet in the
ladies bathroom backs up, is it the caller?s fault?

Actually, it is.  More to the point, it is the
caller?s responsibility, as a leader, to deal
with the situation.  Here is one possible example:

?Ladies and gentlemen: Please accept my sincere
apologies.  I have been informed that there is a
serious problem with the plumbing in the ladies
bathroom.  I am sorry about this inconvenience
and ask for your gracious cooperation.  The
ladies bathroom will be closed for the rest of
this evening.  Julie, our wonderful dance
manager, has made a sign with both a ?Men?s? and
a ?Ladies? side which will be hung on the working
bathroom.  Julie will take responsibility for
switching the sign during each dance.  We ask
that you use this bathroom only when it is
labeled for your gender.  Once again, I am sorry
about this inconvenience.  We all appreciate your
cooperation and consideration in dealing with
this problem.  Now, please take hands in groups
of four from the top of the hall.?

This announcement could, of course, be made by
the dance manager or some other responsible
party.  The caller, however, should apologize, in
any case, for the disruption of the dance
program.  In the absence of anyone else stepping
forward it is the caller?s responsibility to
address the problem.  The point is to put the
dancers at ease so that they can do their job of
enjoying a wonderful evening of social dance with live music.

Someone brought up the issue of dancers who fail
to integrate into the community and form clumps
of newcomers.  Is this the caller?s fault?  Yes
it is.  The tradition of contra dance includes
learning at a regular dance rather than in
separate lessons.  Consequently, integrating
newcomers into the community is the caller?s
responsibility and is one of the most essential
core skills that define an excellent contra dance
caller.  Clumps of newcomers in the hall are a
clear symptom of poor calling.  Sorry.  It?s one
of your primary responsibilities.  (Note that if
we relinquish this responsibility it eliminates
any discussion of how the caller can integrate
newcomers, something that really should be addressed.)

There have been some good points made in this
thread.  In the final analysis, however, the idea
of the caller taking total responsibility is an
inescapable position.  While it may be true that
the caller is not omnipotent I would submit the
following points about the caller?s responsibility for the hall::

    * This is not a statement of fact.  It is a
statement of policy which defines the professional role of a caller.

    * Any alternative policy offers no possible
action that the caller can take to ?put out
fires? or improve the situation.  Other positions
offer only excuses for the caller to relinquish leadership.

    * By accepting this policy the caller can
provide both leadership and a positive example
for others. If the caller makes excuses others will follow that example.

If there is any core principle to calling
effectively and with professionalism, this is
it.  If the caller is not willing to take
responsibility for everything that happens in the
hall they are simply not doing their job.  If
there is a problem with the evening?whether it be
disruptive dancers, a band that plays
inappropriate tunes, or ?incompetent dancers,??an
excellent caller will always ask: ?What could I
do differently next time to better address this
problem??  Without taking full responsibility the
caller will not have the motivation to
improve.  There are always excuses to employ.  A
professional caller does not make excuses.  Most
importantly, this action sets an example for everyone.

Calling is a role of leadership.  If the
caller?who has a PA system?is not willing to take
responsibility, why should anyone else?

Greg McKenzie



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