Re: [Callers] Callers Digest, Vol 68, Issue 16

Fri, 16 Apr 2010 08:42:55 -0400 (EDT)

I love this new dance by Rich Goss. Personally the dance in it's original form looks like fun with moves that are very interesting. There's several reasons I wouldn't add the cast off. I don't think the transition from coming up the hall into a hey is that awkward. Secondly, a cast off would add to the complexity of the dance (and add to the amount of time walking it through). It already has enough complexity to be fun. Third, I believe the cast off would make the dance flow better for the number one woman, but create lousy flow for the number two woman. So we solve one problem and creat another. Or perhaps the suggestion is to have everyone cast of in a counter- clockwise direction. Then we introduce some crazy timing issues i.e. one couple casts three-quarters while the other casts once and a quarter. Is that what we are suggesting here? 

Tom


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That's what I had in mind.

J

On 4/15/2010 11:52 AM, Gary Shapiro wrote:

On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 8:31 AM, richgoss-at-comcast.net wrote:



I don't think there would be enough time for a hand cast.




The hand cast or gate or wheel around should take place in A2:
A2: Down hall 4-in-line (4), turn as couples (4); return (4), wheel around 
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From: "Gary Shapiro" [email protected]

The hand cast or gate or wheel around should take place in A2:
A2: Down hall 4-in-line (4), turn as couples (4); return (4), wheel around 
(M back up)
Isn't the usual timing for a down the hall:? down in 4 (6), turn (4), return (6) ? 



I like what you are proposing though.



Rich





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When I've done a dance with a hand cast out of the back up the hall,
it's generally ended up

Down the hall (4 and a bit)
Turn (4 less a bit)
Return (4 and a bit)
Cast (4 less a bit)
The timing can be a bit flexible. In addition, the cast will flow right 
into the Hey and so that timing will be a bit squishy too.

Jack
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Isn't the usual timing for a down the hall: down in 4 (6), turn (4), return (6) ? 



I like what you are proposing though.



Rich



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Seems like a good change to the dance.? Thanks!




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When I've done a dance with a hand cast out of the back up the hall,
it's generally ended up

Down the hall (4 and a bit)
Turn (4 less a bit)
Return (4 and a bit)
Cast (4 less a bit)
The timing can be a bit flexible. ?In addition, the cast will flow right 
into the Hey and so that timing will be a bit squishy too.

Jack


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Here is the new dance with changes from Jack, and clarification on the zig-zag: 



Betty?s Night Out ? Rich Goss ???? Improper, Double Prog

A1: ? Neighbor Dosido and Swing (end facing down hall)
A2: ? Down hall 4-in-line(4), turn as couples(4); Return(4), hand cast (gents backing up, ladies walking forward) to send the ladies in to start the half hey? 

B1: 1/2 Hey, Gents Ricochet Back (Ladies cross rt sh) Partner swing
B2: Circle Left 3/4, As Couples, zig left?past current N, zag right around next N, zig left to couple #3 (to start A1 Dosido) 



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I would refer to the action by saying "as couples, weave past two couples, finish facing 3rd couple". Of course, I come from a square dance background where we "weave the ring". This would merely be a derivation of that call.
What I'm not clear on is the richochet. I've heard the term, but am not sure of the execution. Care to elaborate? 



Thanks,



Ron Nelson

Chula Vista, CA


Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2010 07:15:55 -0700
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Right. Another way to describe it would be:
As couples zig-zag past 2 N couples, moving left around #1 (current), right 
around #2, face the #3 (to A1: dosido).

Let me know how it goes if you call it.

Rich


On 4/15/10 6:46 AM, "Ruth Pershing" <[email protected]> wrote:


Rich ~

I don't know the answer to your question about whether the dance has
been written, but could you explain the B2 zig-zag figure? Does it
mean that as a couple, you pass by the next couple to the left (women 
pass), then next couple by the right (men pass) and the next by the
left (women pass), then get ready to do-si-do a new neighbor for the
next time through?

I might try it this weekend. Thanks,

~Ruth, Chapel Hill NC
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From: Rich Goss <[email protected]>
Date: April 14, 2010 10:15:21 AM EDT
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Wrote this dance recently in honor of one of our dancers who
recently passed
away, Betty Stewart. Has this one already been written?

Betty?s Night Out Rich Goss
Improper, Double Prog

A1: Neighbor Dosido and Swing (end facing down hall)
A2: Down hall 4-in-line, turn as couples; Return, face across
B1: 1/2 Hey, Gents Ricochet Back (Ladies cross rt sh)
Partner swing
B2: Circle Left 3/4
As Couples, zig left, zag right, zig left


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The ladies perform the 1/2 hey, crossing the set.?
The gents start the 1/2 hey, but meet in the center, touch hands, and bounce back (or Richochet) ?to their same side. 


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I would refer to the action by saying "as couples, weave past two couples, finish facing 3rd couple". ?Of course, I come from a square dance background where we "weave the ring". ?This would merely be a derivation of that call. 

?
What I'm not clear on is the richochet. I've heard the term, but am not sure of the execution. Care to elaborate? 

?

Thanks,

?

Ron Nelson

Chula Vista, CA
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Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2010 07:15:55 -0700
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Right. Another way to describe it would be:
As couples zig-zag past 2 N couples, moving left around #1 (current), right 
around #2, face the #3 (to A1: dosido).

Let me know how it goes if you call it.

Rich


On 4/15/10 6:46 AM, "Ruth Pershing" <[email protected]> wrote:


Rich ~

I don't know the answer to your question about whether the dance has
been written, but could you explain the B2 zig-zag figure? Does it
mean that as a couple, you pass by the next couple to the left (women 
pass), then next couple by the right (men pass) and the next by the
left (women pass), then get ready to do-si-do a new neighbor for the
next time through?

I might try it this weekend. Thanks,

~Ruth, Chapel Hill NC
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From: Rich Goss <[email protected]>
Date: April 14, 2010 10:15:21 AM EDT
To: Shared Weight <[email protected]>
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Wrote this dance recently in honor of one of our dancers who
recently passed
away, Betty Stewart. Has this one already been written?

Betty?s Night Out Rich Goss
Improper, Double Prog

A1: Neighbor Dosido and Swing (end facing down hall)
A2: Down hall 4-in-line, turn as couples; Return, face across
B1: 1/2 Hey, Gents Ricochet Back (Ladies cross rt sh)
Partner swing
B2: Circle Left 3/4
As Couples, zig left, zag right, zig left


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Start a hey, ladies pass R, pass P by L on outside, gents meet and then 
bounce back to end up on their partner's left for the swing (it can be
nice if the lady catches her partner for the swing.

J

On 4/15/2010 2:45 PM, Ron Nelson wrote:
I would refer to the action by saying "as couples, weave past two couples, finish facing 3rd couple". Of course, I come from a square dance background where we "weave the ring". This would merely be a derivation of that call.
What I'm not clear on is the richochet. I've heard the term, but am not sure of the execution. Care to elaborate? 



Thanks,



Ron Nelson

Chula Vista, CA



Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2010 07:15:55 -0700
From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Callers] Callers Digest, Vol 68, Issue 12- new dance

Right. Another way to describe it would be:
As couples zig-zag past 2 N couples, moving left around #1 (current), right 
around #2, face the #3 (to A1: dosido).

Let me know how it goes if you call it.

Rich
On 4/15/10 6:46 AM, "Ruth Pershing"<[email protected]> wrote: 



Rich ~
I don't know the answer to your question about whether the dance has 
been written, but could you explain the B2 zig-zag figure? Does it
mean that as a couple, you pass by the next couple to the left (women 
pass), then next couple by the right (men pass) and the next by the
left (women pass), then get ready to do-si-do a new neighbor for the 
next time through?

I might try it this weekend. Thanks,

~Ruth, Chapel Hill NC
On Apr 14, 2010, at 11:57 AM, [email protected] wrote: 



From: Rich Goss<[email protected]>
Date: April 14, 2010 10:15:21 AM EDT
To: Shared Weight<[email protected]>
Subject: [Callers] New Dance
Reply-To: Caller's discussion list<[email protected]>


Wrote this dance recently in honor of one of our dancers who
recently passed
away, Betty Stewart. Has this one already been written?

Betty?s Night Out Rich Goss
Improper, Double Prog

A1: Neighbor Dosido and Swing (end facing down hall)
A2: Down hall 4-in-line, turn as couples; Return, face across
B1: 1/2 Hey, Gents Ricochet Back (Ladies cross rt sh)
Partner swing
B2: Circle Left 3/4
As Couples, zig left, zag right, zig left


Rich, Portland Or






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Don't forget that the registration deadline for the Callers Workshop
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and I expect more registrations to be coming in over the next week or
so.  If you've been planning to send in your registration and haven't
sent it yet, please get it in soon.

The workshop will be the weekend of May 21-23, held at a variety of
locations in the Chapel Hill area.  We will get started on Friday
evening around 7:00 for an opening gathering, will meet all day (8:30 - 4:30) on Saturday, have a dance Saturday evening, and then wrap up with a Sunday brunch and closing discussion on Sunday from 11:00 - 2:00 or so. 

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