I called the dance last night, and it worked very well - it's a keeper.

There was a little tendency for the dancers to finish early, and therefore 
begin the Dos-a-do early.  I traced this back to the fact that the figure 
before the zig zag is a circle left 3/4.  The dancers were accomplishing that 
is 6 steps and starting (and finishing) the zig zag early.  The music was quite 
zesty, and the dancers were stepping This wasn't a big problem, and I was able 
to fix it by timing my calls differently.

> Betty's Night Out
>  Rich Goss
>  Improper, Double Prog 
> 
> A1:  Neighbor Dosido and Swing (end facing down hall) 
> A2: Down hall 4-in-line(4), turn as couples(4); Return(4), hand cast (gents 
> backing up, 4 counts)
> B1: 1/2 Hey, Gents Ricochet Back (Ladies cross rt sh) Partner swing 
> B2: Circle Left 3/4, As Couples, zig left past current N, zag right around 
> next N, zig left to couple #3

Regarding the timing in A2, I encouraged the dancers to (a) only take 4 steps 
down the hall, and (b) use a courtesy turn.  This sets up the timing for the up 
the hall and hand cast.
(The hand cast takes 4 full counts, so therefore the up-the-hall can only be 4 
steps.)
I had another problem in that some of the gents didn't do the ricochet 
correctly, but that was my fault for not demonstrating the oval pattern that is 
required. 

-John

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> That's what I had in mind.
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> On 4/15/2010 11:52 AM, Gary Shapiro wrote:
>> On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 8:31 AM, richgoss-at-comcast.net wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>> I don't think there would be enough time for a hand cast.
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> The hand cast or gate or wheel around should take place in A2:
>> 
>> A2: Down hall 4-in-line (4), turn as couples (4); return (4), wheel around
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> From: "Gary Shapiro" [email protected] 
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> The hand cast or gate or wheel around should take place in A2: 
> 
> A2: Down hall 4-in-line (4), turn as couples (4); return (4), wheel around 
> (M back up) 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Isn't the usual timing for a down the hall:? down in 4 (6), turn (4), return 
> (6) ? 
> 
> 
> 
> I like what you are proposing though. 
> 
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> 
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> When I've done a dance with a hand cast out of the back up the hall, 
> it's generally ended up
> 
> Down the hall (4 and a bit)
> Turn (4 less a bit)
> Return (4 and a bit)
> Cast (4 less a bit)
> 
> The timing can be a bit flexible.  In addition, the cast will flow right 
> into the Hey and so that timing will be a bit squishy too.
> 
> Jack
> On 4/15/2010 12:52 PM, [email protected] wrote:
>> Isn't the usual timing for a down the hall:  down in 4 (6), turn (4), return 
>> (6) ?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I like what you are proposing though.
>> 
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> Seems like a good change to the dance.? Thanks! 
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> ----- Original Message ----- 
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> When I've done a dance with a hand cast out of the back up the hall, 
> it's generally ended up 
> 
> Down the hall (4 and a bit) 
> Turn (4 less a bit) 
> Return (4 and a bit) 
> Cast (4 less a bit) 
> 
> The timing can be a bit flexible. ?In addition, the cast will flow right 
> into the Hey and so that timing will be a bit squishy too. 
> 
> Jack 
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> Here is the new dance with changes from Jack, and clarification on the 
> zig-zag: 
> 
> 
> 
> Betty?s Night Out ? Rich Goss ???? Improper, Double Prog 
> 
> A1: ? Neighbor Dosido and Swing (end facing down hall) 
> A2: ? Down hall 4-in-line(4), turn as couples(4); Return(4), hand cast (gents 
> backing up, ladies walking forward) to send the ladies in to start the half 
> hey? 
> 
> B1: 1/2 Hey, Gents Ricochet Back (Ladies cross rt sh) Partner swing 
> B2: Circle Left 3/4, As Couples, zig left?past current N, zag right around 
> next N, zig left to couple #3 (to start A1 Dosido) 
> 
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> Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2010 18:45:31 +0000
> From: Ron Nelson <[email protected]>
> To: <[email protected]>
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> I would refer to the action by saying "as couples, weave past two couples, 
> finish facing 3rd couple".  Of course, I come from a square dance background 
> where we "weave the ring".  This would merely be a derivation of that call.
> 
> 
> 
> What I'm not clear on is the richochet. I've heard the term, but am not sure 
> of the execution. Care to elaborate?
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> 
> 
> Ron Nelson
> 
> Chula Vista, CA
> 
>> Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2010 07:15:55 -0700
>> From: [email protected]
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: [Callers] Callers Digest, Vol 68, Issue 12- new dance
>> 
>> Right. Another way to describe it would be:
>> As couples zig-zag past 2 N couples, moving left around #1 (current), right
>> around #2, face the #3 (to A1: dosido).
>> 
>> Let me know how it goes if you call it.
>> 
>> Rich
>> 
>> 
>> On 4/15/10 6:46 AM, "Ruth Pershing" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>> Rich ~
>>> 
>>> I don't know the answer to your question about whether the dance has
>>> been written, but could you explain the B2 zig-zag figure? Does it
>>> mean that as a couple, you pass by the next couple to the left (women
>>> pass), then next couple by the right (men pass) and the next by the
>>> left (women pass), then get ready to do-si-do a new neighbor for the
>>> next time through?
>>> 
>>> I might try it this weekend. Thanks,
>>> 
>>> ~Ruth, Chapel Hill NC
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Apr 14, 2010, at 11:57 AM, [email protected] wrote:
>>> 
>>>> From: Rich Goss <[email protected]>
>>>> Date: April 14, 2010 10:15:21 AM EDT
>>>> To: Shared Weight <[email protected]>
>>>> Subject: [Callers] New Dance
>>>> Reply-To: Caller's discussion list <[email protected]>
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Wrote this dance recently in honor of one of our dancers who
>>>> recently passed
>>>> away, Betty Stewart. Has this one already been written?
>>>> 
>>>> Betty?s Night Out Rich Goss
>>>> Improper, Double Prog
>>>> 
>>>> A1: Neighbor Dosido and Swing (end facing down hall)
>>>> A2: Down hall 4-in-line, turn as couples; Return, face across
>>>> B1: 1/2 Hey, Gents Ricochet Back (Ladies cross rt sh)
>>>> Partner swing
>>>> B2: Circle Left 3/4
>>>> As Couples, zig left, zag right, zig left
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Rich, Portland Or
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
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> The ladies perform the 1/2 hey, crossing the set.? 
> 
> The gents start the 1/2 hey, but meet in the center, touch hands, and bounce 
> back (or Richochet) ?to their same side. 
> 
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> ----- Original Message ----- 
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> 
> I would refer to the action by saying "as couples, weave past two couples, 
> finish facing 3rd couple". ?Of course, I come from a square dance background 
> where we "weave the ring". ?This would merely be a derivation of that call. 
> 
> ? 
> 
> What I'm not clear on is the richochet. I've heard the term, but am not sure 
> of the execution. Care to elaborate? 
> 
> ? 
> 
> Thanks, 
> 
> ? 
> 
> Ron Nelson 
> 
> Chula Vista, CA 
> ? 
>> Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2010 07:15:55 -0700 
>> From: [email protected] 
>> To: [email protected] 
>> Subject: Re: [Callers] Callers Digest, Vol 68, Issue 12- new dance 
>> 
>> Right. Another way to describe it would be: 
>> As couples zig-zag past 2 N couples, moving left around #1 (current), right 
>> around #2, face the #3 (to A1: dosido). 
>> 
>> Let me know how it goes if you call it. 
>> 
>> Rich 
>> 
>> 
>> On 4/15/10 6:46 AM, "Ruth Pershing" <[email protected]> wrote: 
>> 
>>> Rich ~ 
>>> 
>>> I don't know the answer to your question about whether the dance has 
>>> been written, but could you explain the B2 zig-zag figure? Does it 
>>> mean that as a couple, you pass by the next couple to the left (women 
>>> pass), then next couple by the right (men pass) and the next by the 
>>> left (women pass), then get ready to do-si-do a new neighbor for the 
>>> next time through? 
>>> 
>>> I might try it this weekend. Thanks, 
>>> 
>>> ~Ruth, Chapel Hill NC 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Apr 14, 2010, at 11:57 AM, [email protected] wrote: 
>>> 
>>>> From: Rich Goss <[email protected]> 
>>>> Date: April 14, 2010 10:15:21 AM EDT 
>>>> To: Shared Weight <[email protected]> 
>>>> Subject: [Callers] New Dance 
>>>> Reply-To: Caller's discussion list <[email protected]> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Wrote this dance recently in honor of one of our dancers who 
>>>> recently passed 
>>>> away, Betty Stewart. Has this one already been written? 
>>>> 
>>>> Betty?s Night Out Rich Goss 
>>>> Improper, Double Prog 
>>>> 
>>>> A1: Neighbor Dosido and Swing (end facing down hall) 
>>>> A2: Down hall 4-in-line, turn as couples; Return, face across 
>>>> B1: 1/2 Hey, Gents Ricochet Back (Ladies cross rt sh) 
>>>> Partner swing 
>>>> B2: Circle Left 3/4 
>>>> As Couples, zig left, zag right, zig left 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Rich, Portland Or 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
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> From: Jack Mitchell <[email protected]>
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> Start a hey, ladies pass R, pass P by L on outside, gents meet and then 
> bounce back to end up on their partner's left for the swing (it can be 
> nice if the lady catches her partner for the swing.
> 
> J
> 
> On 4/15/2010 2:45 PM, Ron Nelson wrote:
>> I would refer to the action by saying "as couples, weave past two couples, 
>> finish facing 3rd couple".  Of course, I come from a square dance background 
>> where we "weave the ring".  This would merely be a derivation of that call.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> What I'm not clear on is the richochet. I've heard the term, but am not sure 
>> of the execution. Care to elaborate?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Ron Nelson
>> 
>> Chula Vista, CA
>> 
>> 
>>> Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2010 07:15:55 -0700
>>> From: [email protected]
>>> To: [email protected]
>>> Subject: Re: [Callers] Callers Digest, Vol 68, Issue 12- new dance
>>> 
>>> Right. Another way to describe it would be:
>>> As couples zig-zag past 2 N couples, moving left around #1 (current), right
>>> around #2, face the #3 (to A1: dosido).
>>> 
>>> Let me know how it goes if you call it.
>>> 
>>> Rich
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 4/15/10 6:46 AM, "Ruth Pershing"<[email protected]>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> Rich ~
>>>> 
>>>> I don't know the answer to your question about whether the dance has
>>>> been written, but could you explain the B2 zig-zag figure? Does it
>>>> mean that as a couple, you pass by the next couple to the left (women
>>>> pass), then next couple by the right (men pass) and the next by the
>>>> left (women pass), then get ready to do-si-do a new neighbor for the
>>>> next time through?
>>>> 
>>>> I might try it this weekend. Thanks,
>>>> 
>>>> ~Ruth, Chapel Hill NC
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Apr 14, 2010, at 11:57 AM, [email protected] wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> From: Rich Goss<[email protected]>
>>>>> Date: April 14, 2010 10:15:21 AM EDT
>>>>> To: Shared Weight<[email protected]>
>>>>> Subject: [Callers] New Dance
>>>>> Reply-To: Caller's discussion list<[email protected]>
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Wrote this dance recently in honor of one of our dancers who
>>>>> recently passed
>>>>> away, Betty Stewart. Has this one already been written?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Betty?s Night Out Rich Goss
>>>>> Improper, Double Prog
>>>>> 
>>>>> A1: Neighbor Dosido and Swing (end facing down hall)
>>>>> A2: Down hall 4-in-line, turn as couples; Return, face across
>>>>> B1: 1/2 Hey, Gents Ricochet Back (Ladies cross rt sh)
>>>>> Partner swing
>>>>> B2: Circle Left 3/4
>>>>> As Couples, zig left, zag right, zig left
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Rich, Portland Or
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
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> The workshop will be the weekend of May 21-23, held at a variety of 
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