On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 10:18 PM, Liz and Bill
<[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi Everyone,
>
>     I'd like your advice on the timing and teaching of "flutter wheel
> with a butterfly whirl."
>
>     Lots of dances use the following in a 16 beat section:
> Gents Allemand Left 1 1/2, scoop up Partner star Promenade, Butterfly whirl
> or
> Ladies Allemand Right 1 1/2 scoop up Neighbor for star Promenade 1/2,
> Butterfly whirl
>
> In Butterflies by Cary Ravitz, A2 is
>
>  A2 Men allemand left 1/2 . Men keep left hands, pick up your partner, star
> promenade across, and butterfly whirl 1/2 to put the ladies in the middle.
>       Ladies allemand right 1/2 Ladies keep right hands, pick up your
> neighbor, star promenade across, and butterfly whirl 1/2 (men go forward,
> ladies go backward) to put the men in the middle
>
>  so  allemande left 1/2, star promenade, butterfly whirl is done in a 8 beat
> phrase.

Notice the butterfly whirl here is 180 degrees rather than the 450
degrees rotation of
the more standard cases. Hence it take less time.

>
>  However in American Gothic by Nathaniel Jack  which starts
> A1      (around Neighbor) Mad Robin Ladies Allemand Left 1 1/2 (Scoop up
> Partner)
> A2      Star Promenade 1/2 (Ladies in the center) w/ whirl Gents start 1/2
> hey by Right
>
>  Allemand Left 1 1/2 is done in a 8 beat phrase, and  star promenade,
> butterfly whirl is done in a 8 beat phrase.

This is typical timing.

>
>
>       I tried this dance earlier this year with experienced contra dancers
> and many were having trouble
> getting through A2 in time.
>
> A1      Circle Left 3/4, Partner Swing
> A2      Promenade across, Ladies Allemand Right 1/2, scoop up Neighbor for
> star promenade 1/2, butterfly whirl
> B1      Pass Thru across (right shoulder), Neighbor Swing (face down four in
> line)
> B2      down the hall four in line, Turn alone, come back four in line, 2's
> in the middle make an arch and pop the 1's Thru to the next couple.

Dancers would have to cut about 3 beats off the promenade here to
finish the A2 on time.
Timing's about
(5) Promenade (tight)
(3) Women allemande right 1/2
(4) Star promenade to the other side
(4) Butterfly whirl

For dancers used to doing a promenade in 8 beats, this is going to be
very counterintuitive.
Chances are dancers will be late for the B1, and it'll result in a
shorter neighbor swing.


>
> How do you help people with the timing? I've tried to suggest that those
> getting scooped up need to be ready.
>
> Thanks.
> Cheers, Bill
> PS - in MWSD,  right hand dancer allemand  right 1/2, pick up person across,
> star promenade back, is called Flutter Wheel
> and left hand dancer allemand left 1/2 , pick up person across, star
> promenade back is called Reverse Flutter Wheel. Both are
> meant to take 8 beats. I have square dancers in my regular contra group and
> need to get them used to
> contra dance timing.

There's  other differences. The connection in a star promenade is much
stronger in a star promenade (arms on each other's back) than a
flutterwheel (holding nearest hand with the other person, but only one
hand.) The flutterwheel doesn't have time for the extra 360 degree
rotation of the butterfly whirl.

-Chris Page
San Diego

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