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Today's Topics:
1. Re: Walk-throughs (Rich Goss)
2. Re: Walk-throughs (Martha Edwards)
3. Re: Walk-throughs (Katy Heine)
4. Re: Walk-throughs ([email protected])
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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2010 13:02:46 -0700
From: Rich Goss <[email protected]>
To: Shared Weight <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Callers] Walk-throughs
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On 4/30/10 11:29 AM, "Bob Isaacs" <[email protected]> wrote:
Chris Weiler wrote:
"I subscribe to the theory that if I need more than one walk thru,
then
I'm calling a dance that is too difficult for the crowd. The main
reason
that I might run a second walk thru is if there is a clump of
beginners
and I need to get them progressed to new couples who can help
them out. "
Bob Isaacs wrote:
Just curious - what are the dancer expectations where you call?
Often I find that is just depends on the dance. Our Portland
Saturday
dances tend to have a fair number of beginners, somewhere around
20-30
percent (we get between 100-150 total) If I observe that folks
seemed to
get it the first time, back it up and go. If it's a dance with a
tricky
move, second walkthrough. If I've had to demo a move in the first
walkthrough, definitely a second with the feel of the flow. I
always try to
throw in a no-walkthrough sometime during the evening, with
familiar moves.
Rich
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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2010 16:26:33 -0500
From: Martha Edwards <[email protected]>
To: "Caller's discussion list" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Callers] Walk-throughs
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I've had East coast callers tell me in no uncertain terms that if
you have
to walk it through more than once you'd better figure out a better
way to
call or choose simpler dances.
But we're used to two out here in the Heartland, so we have all
kinds of
reasons why it's better. Number one is that the two walkthroughs have
different functions - the first one to explain the moves, the
second to show
what you have to do when you do them at speed.
The number two reason is that the experienced dancers are talking
during the
first walkthrough, knowing that another one is coming...
Hmmm....
M
E
On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 3:02 PM, Rich Goss <[email protected]>
wrote:
On 4/30/10 11:29 AM, "Bob Isaacs" <[email protected]> wrote:
Chris Weiler wrote:
"I subscribe to the theory that if I need more than one walk
thru, then
I'm calling a dance that is too difficult for the crowd. The
main reason
that I might run a second walk thru is if there is a clump of
beginners
and I need to get them progressed to new couples who can help
them out.
"
Bob Isaacs wrote:
Just curious - what are the dancer expectations where you call?
Often I find that is just depends on the dance. Our Portland
Saturday
dances tend to have a fair number of beginners, somewhere around
20-30
percent (we get between 100-150 total) If I observe that folks
seemed to
get it the first time, back it up and go. If it's a dance with a
tricky
move, second walkthrough. If I've had to demo a move in the first
walkthrough, definitely a second with the feel of the flow. I
always try
to
throw in a no-walkthrough sometime during the evening, with
familiar moves.
Rich
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Message: 3
Date: Sat, 1 May 2010 07:23:16 -0400
From: "Katy Heine" <[email protected]>
To: "'Caller's discussion list'" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Callers] Walk-throughs
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Interesting discussion. Here in central New York, I don't think the
dancers
have a clear expectation about the number of times a dance should
be walked
through (although generally there's a preference for single walk-
throughs,
and little tolerance for more than two). The approach that I've
decided to
take is to mix it up: use one walk-through for simpler dances and
two when a
dance is particularly complex ... or when the dance is new to me,
or when I
feel I haven't done the best job teaching it the first time. So far
no one
has complained....
Katy Heine
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Subject: Re: [Callers] Walk-throughs
I've had East coast callers tell me in no uncertain terms that if
you have
to walk it through more than once you'd better figure out a better
way to
call or choose simpler dances.
But we're used to two out here in the Heartland, so we have all
kinds of
reasons why it's better. Number one is that the two walkthroughs have
different functions - the first one to explain the moves, the
second to show
what you have to do when you do them at speed.
The number two reason is that the experienced dancers are talking
during the
first walkthrough, knowing that another one is coming...
Hmmm....
M
E
On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 3:02 PM, Rich Goss <[email protected]>
wrote:
On 4/30/10 11:29 AM, "Bob Isaacs" <[email protected]> wrote:
Chris Weiler wrote:
"I subscribe to the theory that if I need more than one walk
thru, then
I'm calling a dance that is too difficult for the crowd. The main
reason
that I might run a second walk thru is if there is a clump of
beginners
and I need to get them progressed to new couples who can help
them out.
"
Bob Isaacs wrote:
Just curious - what are the dancer expectations where you call?
Often I find that is just depends on the dance. Our Portland
Saturday
dances tend to have a fair number of beginners, somewhere around
20-30
percent (we get between 100-150 total) If I observe that folks
seemed to
get it the first time, back it up and go. If it's a dance with a
tricky
move, second walkthrough. If I've had to demo a move in the first
walkthrough, definitely a second with the feel of the flow. I
always try
to
throw in a no-walkthrough sometime during the evening, with familiar
moves.
Rich
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Message: 4
Date: Sat, 1 May 2010 07:37:47 EDT
From: [email protected]
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Subject: Re: [Callers] Walk-throughs
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Good morning!
I just returned from watching Ann Arbor Morris brave a torrential
downpour
to welcome the spring in. We were all soaked clear through
to...well, I'll
leave that to your imagination.
Anyway, since I usually work with mixed crowds, I tend to favor
two or
three walkthroughs. I think that it give the newbies a few
opportunities to
learn how the progression works, to learn that it's "places, not
faces" that
often determines who you will be dancing with, and to rein the
center set crowd
in a bit so we are on the same page as we begin. I also may switch
to a
proper dance if the "experienced dancers" cross over before the
sets have
sorted themselves out. I discourage "flourishes" during the
walkthroughs. They do
nothing to enhance the teaching, and often really confuse the
beginners. I
don't mind them later...as long as they don't interfere with the
enjoyment
of others.
And yes, I AM the chief of the Dance Police. :-)
John B. Freeman, President
SFTPOCTJ
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