Could we please hold off on this technical discussion on what tools are
better for contra-dance sites, sparked by the suggestion of creating a mailing
list for that kind of discussion, until that mailing list is created, and then
have it there?

Thanks!

-- Alan



> Patricia - it sounds to me that WordPress would probably be a lot better for
> you than Joomla.

> The reason I'd recommend going with one of the top three CMSs is that the
> community of people who have learned to use them is huge, so help is usually
> quick and free. There are literally hundreds of CMSs, home-brewed and open
> source and commercial, and there could be the perfect one that we've all
> overlooked so far, but, unless you know someone who can help with the one
> you're using, the ones with the largest following will probably have the
> largest number of people who have learned it and can help out - both from
> the creators of the CMS, and the online forums.

> One of the reasons I like Joomla is that it feels a bit like a contra dance
> - the forums have a lot of smart people being nice to one another... I don't
> know much about the WordPress community (forums and the like) but it's
> probably the same.

> Did you know that Bill Tomczak (clarinet player with the Latter Day Lizards)
> helped write part of a really good book on Joomla?  (*Joomla, Start to
> Finish*, by Jen Kramer, teacher extraordinaire) and a Joomla extension, 
> *Grumpy
> Contacts*. So it must be good. :-) I wonder how many other people on this
> list have written CMS extensions? I'm guessing more than one!



> M
> E

> On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 7:39 PM, P. Campbell
> <[email protected]>wrote:

> > >
> > > I appreciate hearing about the differences among WordPress, Joomla, &
> > > Drupal. I created my website in iWeb which will not be supported after
> > this
> > > year, and I've been trying to figure out what to do. I think I need
> > > something more than WordPress, but I'm not really a techie. I kind of
> > > learned what I needed for each step of what I did/do, and then crossed my
> > > fingers that it would work (and also got help with some of it at the
> > Apple
> > > store). I'm not too happy to think that I'll probably have to start from
> > > scratch (though there were limitations to iWeb that I didn't know until I
> > > had spent a few months creating the site), and I'm not really interested
> > in
> > > learning any complex web design (like Dream Weaver, etc.). I see things
> > like
> > > Site Builder and Ruby on Rails on my hosting service - but I have no idea
> > > how easy any of them are to use. Joomla sounds like it might be what I
> > > should look into.
> >
> >
> >
> > > Thanks, Patricia
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >
> >
> >
> > > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > > From: Martha Edwards <[email protected]>
> > > To: "Caller's discussion list" <[email protected]>
> > > Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 15:08:13 -0500
> > > Subject: Re: [Callers] contra dance webmasters unite!
> > > Chip - I've been using *Joomla *for our site here in St Louis (
> > > http://childgrove.org) for about a year. For myself, it's the perfect
> > > blend
> > > of front-end ease-of-use for content updaters and  back-end flexibility
> > for
> > > the designer-techie who wants to make the site jump through a few hoops.
> > I
> > > love it. I can do things I always needed to hire a programmer to do
> > before
> > > -
> > > like make online registration forms that send you an email with the
> > > registration info AND send the registrant on to PayPal (thank you,
> > > Chronoforms!).
> > >
> > > However, since it looks as if, in the big Content Management Systems
> > > shakeout, there are three popular survivors, *WordPress, Joomla,* and *
> > > Drupal*, I've done some investigation into the other two as well.
> > >
> > > If the folks making the web site don't have a bunch of tech experience as
> > a
> > > web designer or programmer, I'd probably recommend *WordPress*. It's a
> > lot
> > > easier for non-techies to set up, and I've seen some spiffy sites done
> > with
> > > it. On the other hand, I also hear it's a lot less flexible for web
> > > designer/programmers. In other words, if you want to do what IT wants you
> > > to
> > > do, it's GREAT, but if you want to do something slightly different, you
> > may
> > > be out of luck. That makes sense, though. I figure you get extreme
> > > ease-of-use OR extreme flexibility, but not both. Don't know if you could
> > > do
> > > an online registration form with it, for example. Anyone have experience
> > > with this?
> > >
> > > I can't imagine a contra dance group ever needing something like
> > *Drupal*,
> > > which (I hear) falls squarely in the techie (extreme flexibility) camp.
> > But
> > > hey, if you've got someone who knows it, rumor has it that it can do
> > > amazing
> > > things.
> > >
> > > Uh-oh, just realized that we're not already on the contradance web-stuff
> > > discussion list. My apologies.
> > >
> > > So, in penance, and to keep the discussion about dance, I will include
> > here
> > > a link to my cute little double grand square Flash
> > > movies<http://www.westendweb.com/doublegrandsquare/>
> > > .
> > >
> > > M
> > > E
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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