Just recently I was asked by a gentleman (my partner in the  dance) to wait 
for him for the star promenade (being one of those ladies  who started 
across the set).  After several practice rounds, I had to agree  that it was 
more "satisfying" to make the connection with him on my side of  the set and 
travel with him through the promenade across and then the BF  twirl.

However, we had some room up and down the lines.  There were times  when I 
had to dodge the oncoming lady from the neighboring 4-some which made the  
Star promenade less fun for me.  

In the future if I'm dancing a contra dance I would probably decide to  
"wait or to go" depending on how crowded the hall was.  BTW, if I'm  dancing a 
Star Promenade in a square I wait to be scooped up by  my partner since 
there are no opposing ladies to bump into.

Donna Hunt


In a message dated 2/8/2012 7:01:23 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
[email protected] writes:

I have  been reading these complaints about ladies who start across the set
with  great interest, having hitherto been one of those ladies. I'll
certainly  try not to be one in the future... BUT

BUT the reason is that there is  NO ROOM for the star promenade until you
get past the lady coming at you  from the opposite direction in the next
set. Shall I give the gentleman a  satisfying bit of whirling and get myself
clocked by the oncoming lady's  shoulder? Shall I hang back and make us
late? Or shall I go forward and be  there when the gentleman gets there?

ALSO - many times the gentlemen  are late in deciding what to do, or they've
run into traffic, so they're  often not there at the moment you should be
starting that portion of the  promenade.  Beginning across the set before
the gentleman gets there  is usually simply another attempt to stay with the
music.

After  listening to you all, I would be remiss in not attempting to hold
back and  wait for the gentleman to come pick me up. I shall do so
henceforth,  earnestly and in good faith, and I shall report my injuries, if
any, to my  shoulder or to my sense of timing, to you in the  future.

M
E

On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 5:28 PM, Marlin Whitaker  <[email protected]> wrote:

> What Amy said. Hear,  hear.
>
> It is very unpleasant to arrive at the spot where I am  supposed to meet a
> lady to start a star promenade but find her already  part way across the
> set, so I have to chase her to try to catch up  with her. Usually that
> happens in time for the butterfly whirl, but  that's too late to have the
> "satisfying, connected" star promenade  that Alan is looking for.
>
> -- Marlin
>
>
> On  02/08/2012 12:55 PM, Amy Cann wrote:
>
>> Hmmm. I agree with  everything below except for:
>>
>>  As to the star  promenade/butterfly whirl, the non-allemander* should  
be
>>>
>> moving before the person he/she is going to  promenade with gets there. *
>>
>>
>> This may be  true in some cases, but I think the caller needs to be 
careful
>>  here - I would choose
>>
>> "be ready to be swept up"  instead.
>>
>> I have very clear memories of dancing the  inside part of a star 
promenade
>> and having a VERY unsatisfying  time of it, just like in the original 
post.
>> The main problem? The  outsides kept "helping" me by starting to walk 
round
>> the star  before I got there and really latched on.
>>
>> It didn't  feel like a mini, gentle, star-shaped game of crack-the-whip, 
it
>>  felt like a bunch of outsides promenading around a little track while  
the
>> insides trotted to catch up, their inner hands hooked together  in a 
tangle
>> that had no functional purpose.
>>  Bleh.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> The ones  that felt the best were the ones that waited until my arm was
>>  truly around their waist, and then *hung back a little*  .
>>
>> When dancing the outside, it felt to me that "giving  weight behind 
myself"
>> made it work  best.
>>
>>
>> Just my two cents.
>> Oh,  and BTW:
>>
>>
>>
>>  calling Amy  Cann's "Sweet Music" (*great* dance),
>>>
>> Nope.  :)
>>
>> I mean, yep, it is a great dance, but  --
>>
>> Amy Kahn, rhymes with "John", lives in western NY  and wrote the dance
>> "Sweet Music".
>> Amy Cann, rhymes  with "Dan", lives in Vermont and wrote the tune
>> "Catharsis" and  the dance "High Five."
>>
>> Cheers,
>>  Amy
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