On Sat, 27 Apr 2013 15:25:37 -0700, Alan Winston wrote:
> My sense from reading your notes is that Zesty Playford is what I'd
> think of (as an American who has danced English in the SF Bay Area,
> Boston, etc) as good English dancing with extra playfulness.

I'm not sure that some Americans would class it as "good", since it
isn't the way they've been taught to dance English.

> Questions: Is "Playford" the Brit usage where you mean what US
> means by "English" dancing?  (Since the linked video is of Jenny
> Pluck Pears, which fits both categories, I couldn't tell.)

Yes it is.  To us, "English" also includes "Traditional English" such
as Morpeth Rant and Cumberland Square Eight.

> My brief experience of "Extreme" / "Trash" English was that it was
> really specifically an attempt to bring US-urban-contra aesthetic
> to English dance / music.  Music could be played sleazily, etc -
> but with energy.  Lots of twirls/flourishes.
>
> (In the video I was seeing some improv - in one set the women did
> an elbows-linked back-basket, which I'd never seen before - but not
> so much contra-style flourishes.  [Which I think are generally
> great in contra but must be used sparingly in English lest you lose
> the satisfaction in fitting the geography to the music.]  So I'm
> arguing that Extreme English seems not quite to be the same thing.
> I'd like to see all English over here be more Zesty.)

I agree with all of that.  Contra dancers in England don't do nearly
as many twirls as in the States.  And I would guess that most of the
people in that video also dance contra.  I've never seen an
elbows-linked back-basket before either!  I imagine it was
spontaneous.

Colin Hume


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