Hi everyone, Here's another thing I often say from the stage. It applies to end effects but other times as well.. "If you aren't sure what to do and someone comes towards you who looks like he/she DOES KNOW what to do,... GO WITH IT!! and you'll probably be OK" As Erik points out, dancers who start the walkthrough in the middle of the set rarely remember what was said about end effects by the time they get to the end. I often will try to tell the dancers that I am talking to those people (in the middle of the set) too, but I suspect what they hear is, "blah blah blah".. Often times it can get "messy" at the ends which offends my sense of "order and perfection", but it usually works out OK.. bill
> Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2013 00:18:35 -0700 > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Callers] End Effects > > There have been a bunch of discussions on end effects off and on. > > I like the calls Paul mentioned below, that you can use for when people > are out and in, etc. So, I'm pretty dang sure I'll use the "stand where > you land" call, and that "for those who can," too. > > As far as understanding and teaching end effects goes, I think it's > important for callers to understand end effects. But teaching is > usually not too productive, by the time dancers get to the end, they > often don't remember any of those things. I mean, I've spent many times > at dances saying, "When you get to the end, stay there, wait 8 beats, > and you're in!" only to watch most couples think "we're out, might as > well go look at the band or walk around or swing or something," and be > totally in the wrong place. The going out and in: it's such a short > moment in a long moment of dance. > > My basic thing is to say, "Go To Where The Dance Need You To Go, " and, > if the effects are serious, run around with a wireless mic and help > people through it... > > ~erik hoffman > > > > On 9/18/2013 9:46 PM, Paul Wilde wrote: > > Kalia, > > > > Last month @ Pinewoods George Marshall was calling the afternoon > > contra sessions @ E & A. Lots of fun & really interesting dances. > > On some of the beckets, where the cpl out at the end (whether partners > > or neighbors) needed to stay right where they are, he taught/called, > > 'stand where you land'. I think diagonal chains or pass thrus would > > usually put the cpl out in this position. Another nice call for end > > effects for cpls who are not involved w/ a diagonal move (etc.) is, > > 'for those who can'. > > > > If the dance has a very unusual series of end effects, I try to > > analyze the scenario the end cpls are experiencing, then synthesize it > > into the most helpful but pared down advice that will alert dancers to > > at least what sorts of things to be ready for. This may not require > > telling them every little pc, as it may differ slightly for top and > > bottom cpls, depending on even or odd # of cpls in the line. > > > > More specific example provided upon request. Would love to hear what > > others have to say on topic. > > > > hugs around, > > Paul > > _______________________________________________ > > Callers mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://www.sharedweight.net/mailman/listinfo/callers > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Callers mailing list > [email protected] > http://www.sharedweight.net/mailman/listinfo/callers
