Of course, the ultimate question with regarding to calling a CC BY-NC dance at a paid event: is it in fact noncommercial use? What would describe 'commercial use' of a contra sequence, other than republishing it? (It is my understanding the rich tradition of collecting dances from performers and caller friends would fall under SA, but i'd require legal verification of that before i chose to advocate adding specific protections to choreography.) (p.s. while copyright/left exists to provide an incentive for creatives to create, i highly doubt that the people who write contradances require that incentivization for dance composition, or that there is significant economic gain to be had in the publication of contra dances...)
also REALLY sorry i couldn't delete the quoted text, trackpad button isn't working to cut & paste atm On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 12:00 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: > Send Callers mailing list submissions to > [email protected] > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://www.sharedweight.net/mailman/listinfo/callers > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > [email protected] > > You can reach the person managing the list at > [email protected] > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Callers digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Orange You Glad We Met? (Aahz Maruch) > 2. Re: Orange You Glad We Met? (Aahz Maruch) > 3. Re: Orange You Glad We Met? (Bill Olson) > 4. Re: Scheduling/programmer Question (Aahz Maruch) > 5. Re: See Saw (was Re: Code's Compiling) (Aahz Maruch) > 6. Re: Norms/Ethics of Dance Choreography Sharing (Aahz Maruch) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2013 13:57:47 -0700 > From: Aahz Maruch <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: [Callers] Orange You Glad We Met? > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > In light of the earlier discussion about both double-progression and > dances with neighbor swing that don't have circle left 3/4, I wrote the > following. I'd first like to double-check that this doesn't already > exist under some other name, nor does the name exist for some other > dance; I'd also like feedback on the choreography. > > Orange You Glad We Met? > > Becket > > A1 > Men L allemande 1/2 (4) > Neighbor B&S (12) > > A2 > L star 1/2 to prev neighbor (6) > R star full to current neighbor (10) > > B1 > Pass thru current neighbor to new neighbor (4) > PROGRESSION > End in wave > Balance wave (4) > Square thru 3.5 (8) > > B2 > Partner B&S (16) > -- > Hugs and backrubs -- I break Rule 6 > http://rule6.info/ > <*> <*> <*> > "It's 106 miles to Chicago. We have a full tank of gas, a half-pack of > cigarettes, it's dark, and we're wearing sunglasses." "Hit it." > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2013 14:09:02 -0700 > From: Aahz Maruch <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Callers] Orange You Glad We Met? > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Ignore this, I hate when I hit "send" and immediately realize there's a > major choreography boo-boo... > > (The square thru doesn't work.) > > > On Wed, Sep 25, 2013, Aahz wrote: > > > > In light of the earlier discussion about both double-progression and > > dances with neighbor swing that don't have circle left 3/4, I wrote the > > following. I'd first like to double-check that this doesn't already > > exist under some other name, nor does the name exist for some other > > dance; I'd also like feedback on the choreography. > > > > Orange You Glad We Met? > > > > Becket > > > > A1 > > Men L allemande 1/2 (4) > > Neighbor B&S (12) > > > > A2 > > L star 1/2 to prev neighbor (6) > > R star full to current neighbor (10) > > > > B1 > > Pass thru current neighbor to new neighbor (4) > > PROGRESSION > > End in wave > > Balance wave (4) > > Square thru 3.5 (8) > > > > B2 > > Partner B&S (16) > > -- > > Hugs and backrubs -- I break Rule 6 > http://rule6.info/ > > <*> <*> <*> > > "It's 106 miles to Chicago. We have a full tank of gas, a half-pack of > > cigarettes, it's dark, and we're wearing sunglasses." "Hit it." > > _______________________________________________ > > Callers mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://www.sharedweight.net/mailman/listinfo/callers > > -- > Hugs and backrubs -- I break Rule 6 > http://rule6.info/ > <*> <*> <*> > "It's 106 miles to Chicago. We have a full tank of gas, a half-pack of > cigarettes, it's dark, and we're wearing sunglasses." "Hit it." > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2013 21:10:15 +0000 > From: Bill Olson <[email protected]> > To: Caller's discussion list <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Callers] Orange You Glad We Met? > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > well, better here than on the dance floor.. *been there*.. hee hee.. > > > > > > Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2013 14:09:02 -0700 > > From: [email protected] > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: [Callers] Orange You Glad We Met? > > > > Ignore this, I hate when I hit "send" and immediately realize there's a > > major choreography boo-boo... > > > > (The square thru doesn't work.) > > > > > > On Wed, Sep 25, 2013, Aahz wrote: > > > > > > In light of the earlier discussion about both double-progression and > > > dances with neighbor swing that don't have circle left 3/4, I wrote the > > > following. I'd first like to double-check that this doesn't already > > > exist under some other name, nor does the name exist for some other > > > dance; I'd also like feedback on the choreography. > > > > > > Orange You Glad We Met? > > > > > > Becket > > > > > > A1 > > > Men L allemande 1/2 (4) > > > Neighbor B&S (12) > > > > > > A2 > > > L star 1/2 to prev neighbor (6) > > > R star full to current neighbor (10) > > > > > > B1 > > > Pass thru current neighbor to new neighbor (4) > > > PROGRESSION > > > End in wave > > > Balance wave (4) > > > Square thru 3.5 (8) > > > > > > B2 > > > Partner B&S (16) > > > -- > > > Hugs and backrubs -- I break Rule 6 > http://rule6.info/ > > > <*> <*> <*> > > > "It's 106 miles to Chicago. We have a full tank of gas, a half-pack of > > > cigarettes, it's dark, and we're wearing sunglasses." "Hit it." > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Callers mailing list > > > [email protected] > > > http://www.sharedweight.net/mailman/listinfo/callers > > > > -- > > Hugs and backrubs -- I break Rule 6 > http://rule6.info/ > > <*> <*> <*> > > "It's 106 miles to Chicago. We have a full tank of gas, a half-pack of > > cigarettes, it's dark, and we're wearing sunglasses." "Hit it." > > _______________________________________________ > > Callers mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://www.sharedweight.net/mailman/listinfo/callers > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2013 07:39:24 -0700 > From: Aahz Maruch <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Callers] Scheduling/programmer Question > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > On Thu, Sep 12, 2013, Colin Hume wrote: > > On Wed, 11 Sep 2013 20:57:04 -0400, Linda Leslie wrote: > >> > >> A few dances, such as the Concord MA Scout House, follow the > >> quarterly rule (with exceptions for traveling callers/bands from > >> far away). But others seem to schedule up to a year (or more!) in > >> advance. > > > > Groups in England book bands and callers much further ahead. I have > > 12 bookings for 2014 (it would often be more by this time of the year) > > and 3 for 2015. > > How do y'all bring in new talent? > -- > Hugs and backrubs -- I break Rule 6 > http://rule6.info/ > <*> <*> <*> > Help a hearing-impaired person: http://rule6.info/hearing.html > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2013 08:06:35 -0700 > From: Aahz Maruch <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Callers] See Saw (was Re: Code's Compiling) > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > On Tue, Sep 10, 2013, James Saxe wrote: > > > > So it appears from the above that CALLERLAB has officially deprecated > > use of "See Saw" to mean a left shoulder Dosado for ten years (as of > > tomorrow). I don't have a copy of the CALLERLAB Basic/Mainstream > > definitions from just before that time, but it seems clear that the > > prescribed for "See Saw" would have been (left) gypsy-like in some > > cases and (left) dosado-like in others. > > > > Ten years may seem like a long time to younger members of this list, > > and to people who first took MWSD lessons within the last ten years, > > it may seem like the definitions they learned describe the way things > > were from time immemorial. But by 2003 MWSD had already substantially > > diverged from "traditional" SD for forty years or so. > > Well, I certainly appreciate the history lesson. Memory is unreliable, > of course, but I don't remember ever doing See Saw in MWSD as a left > dosado, starting in 1986 at UCDavis nor the Stanford Quads a year later > (just to nail down the timing and locations more precisely). From what > I can tell, Callerlab seems to be more in the descriptivist camp than > prescriptivist, so almost certainly the definitional changes you describe > followed majority practice that started earlier. > > If anyone's curious, I can do more digging into people's memories on the > MWSD side. > -- > Hugs and backrubs -- I break Rule 6 > http://rule6.info/ > <*> <*> <*> > Help a hearing-impaired person: http://rule6.info/hearing.html > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2013 08:31:49 -0700 > From: Aahz Maruch <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Callers] Norms/Ethics of Dance Choreography Sharing > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > [late again] > > On Fri, Sep 13, 2013, Don Veino wrote: > > > > I freely offer that some of the distinctions may or may not make sense to > > others, but feels right to me in this environment. The grey area one > above > > would probably be stifling to several of the choreography review and > > criticism threads which are otherwise very helpful were it made "not OK." > > > > I'd love to hear what others think! > > Not sure what I think yet, but because of this and Sam's thread, I've > stuck "CC BY-NC-SA" on the dances I'm writing -- can't hurt. > > I prefer that over Sam's CC BY-NC because the SA requires a pass-along > license: if there's ever a situation where copyright is relevant, I want > to force the copyleft. > > http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/3.0/ > -- > Hugs and backrubs -- I break Rule 6 > http://rule6.info/ > <*> <*> <*> > Help a hearing-impaired person: http://rule6.info/hearing.html > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Callers mailing list > [email protected] > http://www.sharedweight.net/mailman/listinfo/callers > > > End of Callers Digest, Vol 109, Issue 47 > **************************************** >
