Gotha.  That never bothered me so I never thought about it that way.

Harold

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Linda Leslie
Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2014 11:39 AM
To: Caller's discussion list
Subject: Re: [Callers] Height diffferential

My arm will actually ache from the pressure of my swing partner leaning back 
too much.
Linda

On Feb 19, 2014, at 12:02 PM, Harold E. Watson wrote:

> While "relax" would actually be a better description than "leaning"  
> into hand behind you, "relax" has so far not proven very effective in 
> keeping a beginner dancer from leaning INTO the swing which makes it 
> much more difficult.  Goes right along with death grip on the right 
> shoulder.  It is a challenge.  What exactly do you mean by dramatic 
> consequences for your arm?
>
> Harold
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] 
> [mailto:[email protected]
> ] On Behalf Of Linda Leslie
> Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2014 10:52 AM
> To: Caller's discussion list
> Subject: Re: [Callers] Height diffferential
>
> As a dancer who often role switches, I have noted that  "leaning"  
> can have some dramatic consequences for my right arm when I dance the 
> gent's role. I tend to avoid using this word, but do like "relax", 
> "connection", and other concepts that might get to a better swing 
> experience. I would love to hear about other words that seem to work 
> for dancers/callers.
> Linda
>
> On Feb 19, 2014, at 10:25 AM, George Mercer wrote:
>
>> The "Where to place the gent's hand for a swing" is a curious problem 
>> for me.  I've generally been told I have a good swing, but every once 
>> in a while I'll be dancing with someone who insists/demands I move my 
>> hand further up on the back or much lower.  I do what I'm asked to 
>> do.
>> I hesitate to suggest to anyone that swinging involves "leaning 
>> back."
>> As for body tension/giving weight, I suggest they use the guide that 
>> one uses for gardening and even child rearing -- firm but gentle.
>> Tension but not stiff or rigid.  You can do both.  I also find myself 
>> when dancing with new dancers telling them to relax, body rigidity or 
>> stiffness is not the answer and it doesn't help them or the person 
>> their dancing with at that moment.
>> Relax. Firm but gentle.  Let me know you're there,  Thanks.
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 9:33 AM, Harold E. Watson <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Sometimes we'll hold a quick swing teach during a break.  I've 
>>> always taught the gents to place their right hands between the 
>>> ladies shoulder blades.  This provides support for the ladies' backs 
>>> so they can lean back into it to balance with swing and it doesn't 
>>> hurt their back.  (We have some gents that insist on swinging at 
>>> around 90
>>> RPM.)
>>> One of the more difficult thing I've had to teach beginner ladies is 
>>> get used to leaning into that hand.  They have a tendency to tightly 
>>> grip my right shoulder rather than relax.  It can be a difficult 
>>> concept for a newbie.
>>>
>>> Harold
>
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