Richard,
My bad.  That was suggested (by Luke D?), as a triplet-esque solution, whereby 
smaller sets, run shorter, limited the potential for problems.

If the problem is dancers who are new, or easily confused, short sets can 
increase the confusion as you get turned around that much faster, with fewer 
dancers in the middle to reinforce the pattern of the dance.  If the problem is 
a very uncomfortable swing or strong aversion to the shadow, I personally would 
prefer a long set, but alternate choreography to the swing, suggested by the 
caller. 
I definitely think that a shadow becomes an anchor, so suggesting line swapping 
will remove what, for some, will make a confusing dance doable at all.  If I 
were calling, that is one thing I wouldn't choose.

Thanks for the new/missing from summary suggestion.
Andrea

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> On Sep 9, 2015, at 4:45 PM, Richard Fischer via Callers 
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Here's a suggestion I don't think I've seen in this discussion. If you want 
> to call a dance with a shadow swing, how about save it for time when you can 
> have several shorter sets, and remind couples they can join other sets when 
> they reach the top or the bottom, to get an opportunity to dance with a 
> bigger variety of people. (And of course remind dancers they may have the 
> surprise of a new shadow.)
> 
> Richard
> 
>> On Sep 8, 2015, at 11:06 AM, Maia McCormick via Callers wrote:
>> 
>> Hey all,
>> 
>> First, a disclaimer: Some people on this listserv thing shadow swings are 
>> problematic. Some don't see any issue with them. This is NOT the 
>> conversation I want to have in this thread; I ask that you respond to the 
>> question I'm asking and do not debate my premise--at least not in this 
>> particular thread. This should help keep this thread on track and hopefully 
>> reduce excess noise and go-nowhere discussions on this listserv. Thanks!
>> 
>> Anyway, the actual question I wanted to ask (whew!)--
>> 
>> There do exist some really fabulous shadow-swing dances that I would love to 
>> be able to call, as long as I could do so without putting anyone in an 
>> uncomfortable position. Do folks have ideas for ways to mitigate the 
>> potential harms of shadow swing dances? I was considering, at the beginning 
>> of the dance, having dancers identify their shadow and mentioning, "this 
>> will be a shadow swing dance, so if you need to make any changes, do so now" 
>> (or something like that)--haven't gotten the wording down-pat, but the idea 
>> is giving dancers advance warning of a shadow swing so they can move 
>> (thereby changing their shadow) if they need to. Any thoughts on this 
>> method? Suggestions of others?
>> 
>> Cheers.
>> Maia
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