Meh. I meant gents pass Left in the center. Andrea Sent from my iOnlypretendtomultitask
> On Sep 14, 2015, at 1:59 PM, Andrea Nettleton via Callers > <callers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote: > > > Hmm. Perry, I wasn't thinking the loop R was part of the hey at all, nor > that the timing needed any adjustment. I do think that the half hey doesn't > end with the gents in the center. Ron clearly wrote that the gents pass R in > the center. That theoretically puts them at the side or nearly so, and > heading that way. The ladies will be looping the back at that point. A > loop R will feel like turning to a hey the line, especially for the ladies. > My point is that it will take several iterations of the dance for dancers to > remember to flatten it out as they travel toward the next N so they can gypsy > R with them. If you told them to balance and swing, it would happen more > easily, but I can see that Ron is trying to keep it glassy smooth. My > experience suggests that whatever we intend, dancers will interpret "loop" > with varying degrees of curve, many making it deep enough to spoil the > transition to the R gypsy, unless the teach specifically prevents this. if > you just told the gents to pass L in the middle, and continue to the side, > then face the N and pass through to gypsy the next, the curve would evolve on > its own as people danced it, and be just right. My opinion only. > > As for timing, no matter what you call it, I'm betting that loop is going to > cross the phrase for many, and the new N gypsy will be short. Possibly, just > looping to a new N Sw would work. Might be a long swing for some. > Best, > Andrea > Sent from my iOnlypretendtomultitask > >> On Sep 14, 2015, at 1:31 PM, Perry Shafran <ps...@yahoo.com> wrote: >> >> I would agree with that, although the 1/2 hey is over when the gents pass in >> the center, so it would be more like a 5/8 hey, with 2 beats of that hey >> coming in the A2. "Loop right" seems to be a way to avoid calling it part >> of the hey, and since it's the start of a new phrase, I can see why one >> would want to differentiate it from the hey. >> >> Perry >> >> From: Andrea Nettleton via Callers <callers@lists.sharedweight.net> >> To: Ron Blechner <contra...@gmail.com> >> Cc: callers <callers@lists.sharedweight.net> >> Sent: Monday, September 14, 2015 1:24 PM >> Subject: Re: [Callers] Ye ole Does This Exist - Mad Robin 2 Hey dance >> >> Ron et al, >> In general, I really like this dance. That loop right will snag people at >> least a few times through though, in that it will make them want to gypsy L >> with the next, continuing the weave, when they need to make it feel like a >> pass through so their body flow can take them into a R gypsy. It might be >> worth pointing that out, or teaching them to finish the half hey face N, >> pass through R Sh . Just a thought. >> Andrea >> >> Sent from my iOnlypretendtomultitask >> >> >> >>> On Sep 14, 2015, at 12:05 PM, Ron Blechner via Callers >>> <callers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote: >>> >>> Hi callers, >>> I was hoping this dance, or something very similar, might be identified: >>> Becket >>> A1: Gents Alle L 1.5 (8) >>> 1/2 Hey (8) (NR, LL, PR, GL) >>> A2: N Gypsy R 1/2 (2)* (to face next N) >>> Next N Gypsy + Sw (14) >>> B1: Mad Robin (8)** >>> 1/2 Hey (8) (GL, PR, LL, NR) >>> B2: Gents Pass L (2) >>> P Gypsy + Swing (14) >>> * Been debating teaching / calling this as a gypsy or "loop right". I think >>> either works, but ideas welcome. >>> ** Gents in front, CW >>> Thanks, >>> Ron >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Callers mailing list >>> Callers@lists.sharedweight.net >>> http://lists.sharedweight.net/listinfo.cgi/callers-sharedweight.net >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Callers mailing list >> Callers@lists.sharedweight.net >> http://lists.sharedweight.net/listinfo.cgi/callers-sharedweight.net > _______________________________________________ > Callers mailing list > Callers@lists.sharedweight.net > http://lists.sharedweight.net/listinfo.cgi/callers-sharedweight.net