Meh.  I meant gents pass Left in the center.
Andrea

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> On Sep 14, 2015, at 1:59 PM, Andrea Nettleton via Callers 
> <callers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
> 
> 
> Hmm.  Perry, I wasn't thinking the loop R was part of the hey at all, nor 
> that the timing needed any adjustment.  I do think that the half hey doesn't 
> end with the gents in the center. Ron clearly wrote that the gents pass R in 
> the center.  That theoretically puts them at the side or nearly so, and 
> heading that way.   The ladies will be looping the back at that point.  A 
> loop R will feel like turning to a hey the line, especially for the ladies.  
> My point is that it will take several iterations of the dance for dancers to 
> remember to flatten it out as they travel toward the next N so they can gypsy 
> R with them.  If you told them to balance and swing, it would happen more 
> easily, but I can see that Ron is trying to keep it glassy smooth.  My 
> experience suggests that whatever we intend, dancers will interpret "loop" 
> with varying degrees of curve, many making it  deep enough to spoil the 
> transition to the R gypsy, unless the teach specifically prevents this.  if 
> you just told the gents to pass L in the middle, and continue to the side, 
> then face the N and pass through to gypsy the next, the curve would evolve on 
> its own as people danced it, and be just right.  My opinion only.
> 
> As for timing, no matter what you call it, I'm betting that loop is going to 
> cross the phrase for many, and the new N gypsy will be short.  Possibly, just 
> looping to a new N Sw would work.  Might be a long swing for some.  
> Best,
> Andrea
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>> On Sep 14, 2015, at 1:31 PM, Perry Shafran <ps...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I would agree with that, although the 1/2 hey is over when the gents pass in 
>> the center, so it would be more like a 5/8 hey, with 2 beats of that hey 
>> coming in the A2.  "Loop right" seems to be a way to avoid calling it part 
>> of the hey, and since it's the start of a new phrase, I can see why one 
>> would want to differentiate it from the hey.  
>> 
>> Perry
>> 
>> From: Andrea Nettleton via Callers <callers@lists.sharedweight.net>
>> To: Ron Blechner <contra...@gmail.com> 
>> Cc: callers <callers@lists.sharedweight.net> 
>> Sent: Monday, September 14, 2015 1:24 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Callers] Ye ole Does This Exist - Mad Robin 2 Hey dance
>> 
>> Ron et al,
>> In general, I really like this dance.  That loop right will snag people at 
>> least a few times through though, in that it will make them want to gypsy L 
>> with the next, continuing the weave, when they need to make it feel like a 
>> pass through so their body flow can take them into a R gypsy.  It might be 
>> worth pointing that out, or teaching them to finish the half hey face N, 
>> pass through R Sh .  Just a thought.
>> Andrea
>> 
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>> 
>>> On Sep 14, 2015, at 12:05 PM, Ron Blechner via Callers 
>>> <callers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi callers,
>>> I was hoping this dance, or something very similar, might be identified:
>>> Becket
>>> A1: Gents Alle L 1.5 (8)
>>>        1/2 Hey (8) (NR, LL, PR, GL)
>>> A2: N Gypsy R 1/2 (2)* (to face next N)
>>>        Next N Gypsy + Sw (14)
>>> B1: Mad Robin (8)**
>>>        1/2 Hey (8) (GL, PR, LL, NR)
>>> B2: Gents Pass L (2)
>>>        P Gypsy + Swing (14)
>>> * Been debating teaching / calling this as a gypsy or "loop right". I think 
>>> either works, but ideas welcome.
>>> ** Gents in front, CW
>>> Thanks,
>>> Ron
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