On the 16-count swing. It can be totally enjoyable, but usually for experienced 
dancers. For a group of mostly beginners, even a 12-count swing can be a bit 
much. So, if I’m calling to a substantially beginning group, I’d turn it into a 
do-si-do and swing. I’ll even turn a balance & swing into a DSD & swing.

I went through a short phase of changing endings to end a dance with a swing. 
Now, I just try to stay out of the way of the band. I much prefer them doing 
the big wind-up or the occasional fade-out and surprise the dancers. So I’ve 
stopped trying to advertise my presence by calling the last time through. But, 
if a dance starts with a partner swing, I often ask the band to pick a 
last-tune-in-the-set that permits them to play three B parts the very last time 
though the dance. This lets the band do a big wind-up, me keep my mouth shut, 
and still end the dance with that A1 partner swing.

~erik hoffman
     oakland, ca


On the starting with a partner

From: Callers [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of tavi 
merrill via Callers
Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2016 5:39 PM
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Subject: [Callers] Thoughts on B2/A1 swings and having time to flourish

…

A 16-count swing does go on forever. But it is also awesome - and i mean truly 
awesome - to have a full 12-count swing plus 4 counts to pull off one of the 
more time consuming flourishes (like the ripcord twirl, seen in the wild here 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iVpR6SxWsM4&list=RDIVquC0jqCXs&t=2m2s and 
taught here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hbyoOPc0rHQ, one of my favorite 
swing ending flourishes but one that takes too much time to be executed in an 
8-count swing window).

I know attitudes on twirls vary, so i should state clearly my opinion: i think 
flourishes, while neither traditional nor intrinsic to our dance form, add a 
lot to contra when they are executed safely, consensually, and in a manner 
mindful of the foursome and set as a whole. That to me implies that when and 
how to use twirls well - and how to time them - can be a potential style point 
when dances allow for them, particularly where a 16-count swing may bore or 
tire dancers, yet allows plenty of time to flourish and arrive on time for the 
next move. We could, as choreographers, maybe even write more 16-count swings 
for use with the crowds that love to flourish. Less subtle: If you're calling a 
16-count swing, why not point out to the dancers there's no excuse for arriving 
late after a flourish?

The A1 placement of the partner swing in Amy's dance "Feelin' the Bern" also 
appeals to me for a quite specific reason. Some callers are of a mind that 
every dance should end with a swing, while others (this camp including myself) 
feel that getting back on the microphone to change the final B to accomplish 
that is bad form, but do appreciate the elegance of being with or at least 
aimed toward your partner at the end of a dance and try to facilitate that 
effect when possible, and others don't give a crap about where dancers are 
facing when the music stops. (NOTE: This is to acknowledge the various camps, 
not to launch a thread on which approach is better!!!) Flowing from this, i 
fully support A1 partner swings, because it's another way to accomplish the 
aimed-toward-partner-when-dance-ends thing that doesn't involve an A1 circle L 
or slide. ;-)

On a slightly different but related note: As i work to assemble a DJ repertoire 
of contradanceable EDM, i've noticed that many remixes are perfectly 
contra-ready save for a "build to drop" element that occurs in the music where 
the B2 ends, in effect adding from 4 to 8 counts to the B2 but usually only 
once through. Rather than re-working the track to eliminate the build/drop 
element, which would create the feeling something substantial is missing, I'm 
toying with the notion of pairing such material with B2 swings so dancers get a 
slightly longer swing during that iteration of the dance. Thinking getting back 
on microphone to say "keep swinging" and then prompt the A1 with recorded music 
isn't such bad form. Open to feedback on that.

I'd appreciate if folks keep responses to this message positive/constructive in 
tone (vis-a-vis argumentative or dismissive) as i've been super depressed 
lately and positivity helps. Hope you all are having a good holiday weekend 
whether you're celebrating Easter or recovering from a raucous Purim or burning 
off all those Newroz treats or still doing laundry after Holi (did i get them 
all?!)

Tavi

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