Could anyone share a dance that has a promenade with a courtesy turn or can any promenade across the set be adapted to promenade with a courtesy turn?
Claire On Sep 4, 2016 7:37 AM, "Jack Mitchell via Callers" < [email protected]> wrote: > Richard said: > "My first dance with a courtesy turn may use it with a promenade, > depending on the crowd. Then move on to dances with a chain or R&L. > Once the turn is understood and well done, the others are easy." > > And thus we come to why teaching moves with a courtesy turn is so much > easier in New England (where promenade and courtesy turn are both done in > the same position). Oh how much easier if we all did a "New England > promenade." > > J > > > > On Fri, Sep 2, 2016 at 11:47 AM Richard Hart via Callers < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> I usually try to separate the courtesy turn from the chain. A courtesy >> turn is used in a number of moves, including R&L through, and a >> promenade. Practice that first with your partner. Man backs up and the >> woman gores forward, with arms around your partner's back. .Remember >> to stop facing the right direction, and as a caller remember to tell >> dancers which way to face. This can be done in a couple of minutes or >> so. >> >> My first dance with a courtesy turn may use it with a promenade, >> depending on the crowd. Then move on to dances with a chain or R&L. >> Once the turn is understood and well done, the others are easy. >> >> I agree with Erik (and Dudley!) The walkthrough and instruction should >> be short. They'd all rather be dancing, so don't introduce much new >> stuff in any single dance. >> >> And thanks for this discussion. I love seeing new dances to try and >> new possibilities to teach when there are a lot of beginners. >> >> On Mon, Aug 22, 2016 at 11:18 AM, Luke Donforth via Callers >> <[email protected]> wrote: >> > Hello all, >> > >> > I've been thinking about glossary dances, and building vocabulary for >> new >> > dancers. I'm curious what your favorite dance is for teaching a ladies >> chain >> > for a crowd of mostly new dancers? Or if you don't have a specific >> dance, >> > what do you look for in a dance to make the chain as accessible as >> possible? >> > >> > Just a chain over? Or a full chain over and back? >> > Chain to neighbor? Chain to partner? >> > What move best precedes the chain to set it up? >> > What move best follows the chain that still helps new dancers succeed? >> > Other factors you consider? >> > >> > I don't have a go-to favorite, but I'll walk through some of the things >> I >> > think about: >> > >> > I very seldom call a dance with a full chain. Experienced dancers don't >> > whoop and holler over them, and for new dancers, I'd worry the confusion >> > would snowball. >> > >> > Programatically, in a hall with a reasonable mix of new and experienced >> > dancers, I shoot for the first chain to be to neighbor so that the new >> > dancers can feel it with different experienced dancers; rather than new >> > dancers (who will partner up and clump, no matter how many helpful >> dance >> > angels you have) continually chaining to each other. If I were trying to >> > teach a chain to ALL new dancers... well, I doubt I'd teach a chain to >> > completely new dancers... but if I were, I'd probably go to partner. >> > >> > For moves, while I love the chain->left hand star transition; I'm not >> > convinced it's the best for teaching the chain. It often goes B2 >> > chain->star, find new neighbor; and the new neighbor from a left hand >> star >> > is non-trivial for new dancers. Possibly a dance where the chain->star >> > wasn't followed by the progression would work, but it's such a great >> > progression when they're ready for it; I don't see many of those dances. >> > chain->star->left allemande maybe? I do like long lines either before or >> > after the chain as a set-up; but not on both ends. I'm not sure which >> side >> > of the chain the lines help more. The Trip to ___ dances that end with >> > chains and start with women walking in to long wavy lines flow well, >> but I >> > don't know that they're the best for teaching chains, since the long >> wavy >> > line is another new piece. >> > >> > Anyway, just some of my thoughts (started by the other thread about >> simple >> > glossary dances). I look forward to hearing what others on Shared Weight >> > have to say about the dances they use to teach chains (and I certainly >> won't >> > be offended if folks tangent off into gent's chains; just start a new >> thread >> > ;-) >> > >> > Take care, >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Luke Donforth >> > [email protected] >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Callers mailing list >> > [email protected] >> > http://lists.sharedweight.net/listinfo.cgi/callers-sharedweight.net >> > >> _______________________________________________ >> Callers mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://lists.sharedweight.net/listinfo.cgi/callers-sharedweight.net >> > -- > Jack Mitchell > Durham, NC > > _______________________________________________ > Callers mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.sharedweight.net/listinfo.cgi/callers-sharedweight.net > >
