Isaac, you raise a very good question.  There are so many dances that the issue 
of originality is bound to come up.  

> Of course we're all going to have different opinions.  To those who have been 
> on this list for some time I apologize for repeating myself.  Since you are 
> relatively new I'll relay something I heard Ted S. say.  A dance has to have 
> 50% new choreography to be new.  And Ted was looking at contras and squares 
> of his day like Petronella and Hull's which had unique A parts and the same B.

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> On Oct 2, 2017, at 10:05 PM, Isaac Banner via Callers 
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Hey all,
> 
> A question I've been mulling over for several months now is where the line 
> blurs from "a variation of" to "a dance based on" to "a dance of my own" when 
> writing contras.
> 
> For example:
> Last Hey (First Hey var.) - Paul Balliet and maybe Isaac Banner in a way?
> Becket, CW
> A1:  (8) Circle left 3/4
>        (4) Rings balance
>        (4) Pass through u/d
> A2:  (8) Ladies alle. left 1.5x
>        (4) Short waves balance
>        (4) Partner alle. right 3/4
> B1: (16) Ladies pass left, hey for 4
> B2: (16) Partner balance/swing
> 
> In this case, I took First Hey, shifted it off by a phrase, and changed what 
> had then become the A2. I've called it at four or five dances out in the 
> northwest now, and I've waffled back and forth between calling it "a 
> variation of..." or "a dance of mine, based on..." and I'm still not sure on 
> which I want to use. 
> 
> I'll admit I'm still fairly new to this list, but at least in the several 
> months I've been following conversations here it seems fairly regular that I 
> see someone put out a dance, asking if it exists, only to get several 
> responses of "Oh, yes, I wrote that but with 8/16/32 counts different." I 
> always feel like it must be exciting, in a way, to know that you and another 
> caller both put together the same ideas, but I also would guess that it must 
> be a little disheartening, in a way, to know that your newfound baby isn't 
> quite yours and yours alone...heck, Newton and Leibniz both developed 
> Calculus and 300 years later even that can't seem to be settled.
> 
> Over the last few years I've heard callers talk about when they consider a 
> dance to be a unique sequence and the majority opinion seems to be if a full 
> phrase is unique between the two, but I'm not sure that's always a hard and 
> fast rule...
> 
> Anyways, I've been very curious what other people have to say on the topic. 
> Please let me know what you think.
> 
> Thanks,
> Isaac Banner
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