OK, I have to chime in here. I'm definitely on the side of "honoring tradition" 
(within reason), because if we don't, all of traditional music and dance starts 
to become this homogeneous blob... The tradition is much richer than that! It's 
not just traditional singing square dance calls, but (maybe even more) applies 
to traditional songs as well and I'm going to give some license to the term 
"traditional" here!)..


At Maine Fiddle Camp there is singing going on pretty much ALL the time. 
Singing around the camp fire at night is a tradition which has been going on 
for as long as Camp has been in existence. Songs from many traditions, always 
unaccompanied, and always in multi-part harmony. It's a beautiful thing to be a 
part of. Last year (or was it the year before) someone started the song "Old 
Molasses Rum", composed by the late Tom Rowe (a dear departed friend) who was 
the bass player (and bass voice) in Schooner Fare. The words to the whole song 
are attached as a PDF file because that's the only way I have them. The 
"problem" is with third and fourth words believe it or not.. When this song was 
started at the campfire, a young woman was SO upset at the term "African man" 
that we had to stop the song and go on to something else. This caused a LOT of 
stress and I think it colored the campfire sings for the rest of the week at 
Camp. The young woman's take on this all was that only a person of African 
descent had the right to sing a song with those words in it.. I personally 
disagree. Read the lyrics and decide for yourself. We did have a "discussion" 
about this later but I don't think there was any *clear* outcome.


I'll digress here a little into the realm of pop music. There are a million 
examples here, but just take the Beach Boys "California Girls".. whew.. Nothing 
blatant there but these days some would be offended JUST by the fact that women 
were being called "girls", when you actually listen to the lyrics I'm sure many 
would have lots of issues.. .. BUT the Beach Boys pretty much revolutionized 
the use of harmony in pop or maybe all music at that time and while you could 
argue that people had problems with the lyrics at that time and didn't say 
anything, still the songs hit the top of the charts and the harmonies were 
chillingly wonderful.. So what do we do here? Abandon singing or even listening 
to all old music and,, then what? Lately there is an effort on certain fronts 
to "change history" but I don't want to do it with traditional music and dance. 
The richness of the tradition is what makes it so powerful. I often call a 300 
year old contra dance and tell the dancers we've been doing this continually 
for OVER 300 years and that they are part of a continuing tradition the likes 
of which are rarely found on this continent (and I recognize native American 
traditions as an exception to what I am saying!!)


I agree with Tom and some of the others.. "Yes always be respectful, not 
intentionally disrespectful."


nuf said  - bill

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From: Callers <[email protected]> on behalf of Donna Hunt 
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Sent: Monday, March 26, 2018 2:06 PM
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Subject: Re: [Callers] Politically Correct?

And here lies the minefield, a caller is never sure who in the audience will 
object, or what they will object to.  And organizers rarely give a clear 
indication of what their vision is...so the callers take the heat.

As callers we're d@mned if we do and d@mned if we don't
Call a square (or other dance formation) or don't
say gypsy or don't
say men, women, he or she...  or don't

Social media is a very powerful tool and can be used for good and evil 
depending on which side you are on.  It can be used to impact elections of 
major countries and impact our views of contra dancing terms.

When I started dancing in the 80's it was the height of the Nicaraguan war and 
the Contras were the right wing rebels (supported and funded by the USA) 
fighting against the left wing socialist government.
When I told people I contra danced I often got unusual looks and had to explain 
what it was.  I wonder if there had been FB at the time would there have been a 
movement to change the name?

The pendulum sways...
In the 80's when I started dancing, Contra dancers used to Norwegian polka to 
the sound check, then dance DI contras, squares (2), circle mixers, , 
hambo/schottische, waltz and occasionally DI proper/triplet/triple minor 
dances, and a few callers were starting to use "Men and Women" rather than 
"Gents and Ladies" reflective of the feminist movement.  (And yes, I personally 
enjoyed the DI contras the best)

Fast forward to 2018 and most callers are using "Gents and Ladies" again (many 
dancers cringe at "Men and Women" and some are advocating for gender-free 
terms), most dance communities stopped doing a circle mixer and many stopped 
doing squares.  AND most dancers can't dance a hambo or schottische and have no 
idea what a triplet or triple minor dance is unless they go to NEFFA or other 
large inclusive festival or dance ECD.

Singing and patter squares are caught in this as the lyrics/patter are 
reflective of the words/lyrics used in the 40's, 50's (and sometimes you just 
use a word that rhymes).  As Rich found out the 70-80 year olds love the lyrics 
(from their youth) and the millennials do not.

I find that folks these days are very intolerant if things don't go their 
way...whichever way that is.  And our dance traditions (and callers) are caught 
in the middle.

BTW:  I MWS in an LGBTQ group and we use "boys and girls" and no one cares and 
almost everyone switches...such a delight!

Donna Hunt




-----Original Message-----
From: Rich Sbardella via Callers <[email protected]>
To: Bob Hofkin <[email protected]>
Cc: Caller's discussion list <[email protected]>
Sent: Sun, Mar 25, 2018 11:15 am
Subject: Re: [Callers] Politically Correct?

Yes Bob,

You are correct, but the tag line for each verse remains the same.  I would 
have to find a word to replace  -young "thing".

I think perhaps it is a generational thing.  I have been calling this song to 
my seniors who are about 75% women in their 70's and 80s and they sing along.  
No objections.  In fact many remember it as a child.  There are certainly some 
contra venues where I would expect a similar response, but others that would 
cringe.

"Such a sweet young thing" used to be a term of endearment for Ladies and 
Gents, but times change.

In MWSD, boys and girls are the default role terms, and I called MWSD for 25 
years.  However, I remember accidentally using the term girls in a square for a 
contra community a few years back, and immediately after the square, I had a 
dancer approach me and voice her concerns.

This is one of the reasons I posed the original question.

Peace,
Rich



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