I think that previous posters have made good points but I am offended by the 
idea that "outsiders" can't be sensitive. Doesn't it make sense that the 
majority, educated, should be the driving force behind "no ethnicity slurred" 
and not leave it in our culture especially in a community that espouses joy and 
unity and shared weight, literally?
Julia

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From: Callers <[email protected]> on behalf of Jeffrey 
Spero via Callers <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, October 8, 2019 10:56 AM
To: Isaac Banner <[email protected]>
Cc: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Callers] [Organizers] contra dance gypsy

I apologize.  But my point remains that ALMOST everyone who is debating this 
point is an outsider.

On Oct 8, 2019, at 6:16 AM, Isaac Banner 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

Hey Jeff,

Not **us** non-roma folk, thank you. My family on my mother's side were a part 
of the culture and none of us appreciate the folks telling us not to worry and 
that we don't need to be offended.

Isaav

On Tue, Oct 8, 2019, 8:10 AM Jeffrey Spero via Callers 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
But Isaac… isn’t that what people on BOTH sides of the issue are doing? There 
are VERY few Roma in the contra community, and we’ve heard from very few 
overall on this issue.  Mostly it’s just us non-Roma folk arguing amongst 
ourselves about what WE perceive how a majority of the Roma people feel about 
this.  And that does apply to people who are both for and against using the 
term “gypsy” to describe a contradance move.  Aren’t we ALL saying what is 
right or wrong for people who are from another heritage?

And now I am bowing out of this controversy as it seems never-ending and very 
divisive.

Jeff



> On Oct 8, 2019, at 5:57 AM, Isaac Banner via Callers 
> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>
> Hey John,
>
> If the N word was also a move that somehow wasn't connected to the slur, you 
> wouldn't dare argue that it's different or that you should get to call it, so 
> drop the argument please. Just because you don't think I should be offended 
> about the word and how it reflects on my heritage doesn't mean you get to 
> dictate whether I actually am. I would ask you not to decide for others how 
> they ought to experience and respect their racial identity, thanks.
>
> Isaac
>

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