You can find some good lessons learned from field deployments of 900 MHz PMP 
450i in a high noise environment at 
http://community.cambiumnetworks.com/t5/PMP-Stories/Success-with-PMP450i-900MHz-in-a-high-noise-urban-environment/m-p/47004/highlight/true#M70

Ray

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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] 
On Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser
Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2016 9:12 AM
To: [email protected]
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Cambium-users] [AFMUG] Dual-slant 900mhz omni (for PMP450) 
ordering group

You are wasting you time with omni's on 900mhz. So your sacrificing a lot of 
gain to get 360 degree coverage which in turn will result in higher overall 
noise floor and lower signal when this 450 product really starts to shine you 
need 25db+ SNR at the client side to get the higher modulation connections. So 
even if you got the Omni you'd going to be lucky to get 8-10db SNR to the 
client which means your only going to be running at 2x speed and getting 10mbps 
download which will probably be intermittent. I had a lot of omnis on FSK 900 
and I can tell you that after having used the cambium slant sector on 450 I am 
a firm believer in sectors only for 900 from here on out. I have connections 
that are 3-4 miles out running 10mhz channels and getting 40mbps down/10mbps 
up. You will never get that with an Omni unless you have LOS and if you have 
LOS then why aren't you using another frequency band?

On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 2:03 AM, Colin Stanners 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
I've been looking for dual-slant 900mhz omni options that would allow 
lower-cost PMP450 900mhz deployment on middle-of-the-woods towers where there 
are only a small number of customers (and low noise). I know that "omnis suck 
compared to sectors", but having nothing at all sucks more.  Due to the 
difficulty of designing dual-slant antennas and the small market, options are 
very few.
Commscope has the CH360QS, only 5dbi gain at ~900mhz... and it's a cellular 
base station omni with all the fancy doodads: 1800-2200Mhz band that WISPs 
can't use, internal GPS antenna, internal diplexer, remote-controlled signal 
tilt on the upper band, etc.  At $3500 per antenna I hope that it makes your 
breakfast too.
Alpha has the best design that I found at present, the AW3464. ~7dbi gain  
http://alphaantennas.com/products/small-cells/aw3464/<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Falphaantennas.com%2Fproducts%2Fsmall-cells%2Faw3464%2F&data=01%7C01%7Cray.savich%40cambiumnetworks.com%7C34d24b96527a4fb9f6b308d412e9f47d%7C0e263e36340946228ac818d993e76eb6%7C1&sdata=bPWJPLqpTVNvzCQUW8L8d2bmaGEibHOZ1bbKgOvK7k0%3D&reserved=0>
 . It's  ~$1200 USD which is still inexpensive compared to any other NLOS 
options.

But currently those antennas cannot be bought - I spoke with Crossover 
Distribution and Alpha, they haven't received enough POs to make a production 
run, need 50 orders at a bare minimum. So if anyone else is really interested 
in one or more of these antennas, ready to buy for sure if they are available, 
e-mail me "If available, I will buy x number of the Alpha AW3464 at $1200/USD 
each from Crossover." and I'll make a list, once it hits 50+ antennas I'll 
speak with Crossover and see if it can happen.

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