Aux port sync requires a significantly stronger drive than timing port sync. This means that an aux port sync device may or may not be able to receive sync from a device originally designed to send sync to a timing port device.
On Wed, Jan 11, 2017 at 5:19 PM, George Skorup <[email protected]> wrote: > Not really sure what the major difference is between "timing port" and > "aux port" sync/timing, but whatever it is, the 450i is certainly > different. The aux port is the traditional timing port, but not exactly? > > The other thing to note, that Forrest mentioned here or the AF list, is > the 450i and presumably the 450m, even though they will take either > polarity on all pairs, two pairs + and two pairs -, they MUST have negative > on 4&5 and positive on 7&8 for sync over power to work. And 450i doesn't > NEED 4-pair power, 2 will work if you're not using the POE output on the > aux port. > > Mostly off the top of my head, feel free to correct. Hopefully this table > makes it onto the list properly formatted. > > Radio Timing Port Sync Aux Port Sync UGPS Power Canopy Sync Cambium Sync > Ethernet Voltage POE Pinout Compliance > PMP/PTP100 x > > x > FastE > 15-30 -4/5 +7/8 > PMP430 AP x > ? > x > FastE > 42-58 -4/7 +5/8 > PMP450 AP x > > x x > GigE 19-32 -4/5 +7/8 > PMP450i AP > x x x x GigE 42-58 -4/5 +7/8 (-1/2 +3/6) 802.3at > PMP450m AP > x x x x GigE 42-58 -4/5 +7/8 -1/2 +3/6 > PTP230 x > x x > FastE > 19-32 -4/5 +7/8 > PTP450 > > > > > FastE > 15-30 > > PTP450i > > > > > GigE > -4/5 +7/8 (-1/2 +3/6) 802.3at > ePMP 1000 GPS > > > x > GigE > -4/5 +7/8 802.3af > ePMP 2000 > > > x ? GigE > -7/8 +4/5 802.3at > > > On 1/11/2017 3:25 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) wrote: > > So, I've been working on a document with several columns: > > Radio Type - the name/model of the radio. > Timing Port Sync (checkbox) - Does the radio support 'traditional' sync > via the timing port? > Aux Port Sync (checkbox) - Does the radio support newer 'aux port' sync > via the aux port? > uGPS-style power output - Can the radio provide power on the timing or Aux > Port for a GPS receiver? > Canopy Style Sync - Does the radio support traditional 'interrupt the > power' sync via the power port.? > Cambium Style Sync - Does the radio support the newer 'interrupt the > power' sync via the power port? > Voltage range supported > Pinout required (i.e. which pins are positive, which are negative, etc) - > most of this I know for all of the radios. > Other notes. > > I've gotten as far as the 4-5 lines I know (newer 100PMP, 320/430PMP, > 450PMP, 450iPMP, ePMP, maybe 1-2 others). A lot of them I used to know > (like when did the 100 series start supporting uGPS power?) but don't > anymore. > > My intent has been to get a few more radios on it and then send it out to > the lists to help me finish it up. But since this came up I figured it was > as good of a time as any to ask for the help. Unfortunately, I don't have > the document ready in a form I can send (it's on a paper notepad by my > computer that I'm not near right now), but since it's pretty easy to > describe I figure I should be able to just ask... > > So if anyone would like to contribute one or more rows to this document > ... I.E. describe the sync and/or power status for a given radio, that > would be helpful. I'm pretty good with the AP's, but as nick mentioned - > the PTP variants are all hard to keep track of. > > On Wed, Jan 11, 2017 at 8:59 AM, Nick Bright <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> On 1/10/2017 5:13 PM, George Skorup wrote: >> > Yeah. Like I said, the PTP230 began this insanity. We kept asking >> > Motorola for the ability to buy license keys to turn PMP430 SMs into >> > PTP230's. Then finally one Animal Farm we got the answer. The PTP230 is >> > different than a PMP430 SM (added sync over power and maybe something >> > else, maybe more RAM, I forget). >> > >> > Now we have PTP450, which is just SM hardware. No h/w variant was >> > produced that included sync over power. Then we got PTP450i, which as I >> > said in 5GHz is the same as AP h/w. But then along came 900MHz PTP450 >> > (they call it PTP450i, but in reality it's PTP450) which is just SM h/w, >> > and 29.5VDC classic Canopy passive POE. >> > >> > I'm not saying it's good or bad, but it sure is confusing. Lacking sync >> > over power leans towards bad though. 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