Obama-Biden: Marching in Liberal Lockstep 
08/23/2008 
At 3:21 am on Saturday, Barack Obama’s campaign sent out the mass e-mail and 
text message: He had chosen Senator Joe Biden as his running mate.  It was a 
remarkably wrong-footed start for the pairing, with media reports of the choice 
having reached many of us almost 8 hours earlier despite the campaign’s promise 
that reporters subscribing to Obama’s website would be the first to know. 
Senator Biden beat out other leading contenders including Virginia governor Tim 
Kaine and Indiana senator Evan Bayh, as well as more long-shot possibilities 
such as Kathleen Sibelius, Bill Richardson, and Chet Edwards.Joseph Robinette 
Biden, Jr. was born in Scranton, Pennsylvania, in 1942 before his family moved 
to Delaware ten years later. In college, Biden double-majored in history and 
political science, then going law school and becoming a member of the Delaware 
Bar in 1969.
 

 
Prime Minister Pham Van Dong called on me and, in the presence of Premier Chou 
En-lai, swore in the name of the Democratic Republic of Vietnam that the latter 
would always respect the land frontiers as well as all islands belonging to the 
"Kingdom of Cambodia" March 1970 by Sihanouk . Wilfred Burchett book "The China 
Cambodia Vietnam triangle " P-176-177
 
VIETNAMESE CULTURE : lies & cheat 
-PHAM VAN DONG AS PRIME MINISTER declared to King Sihanouk that Vietnam respect 
Cambodia independence and territorial integrity in exchange for Cambodia 
recognition of the North Vietnamese as legal government of Vietnam in 1967 and 
allowed Vietnam to open the Ambassy in Phnom Penh in June 1967. King Sihanouk 
agreed to the Vietnamese demand. 
-PHAM VAN DONG AS PRIME MINISTER , in 1978 had sent Vietnamese troops to invade 
and occupy Cambodia from 1978-2006 through the CPP/Hun Sen regime 
. An estimate 460 000 innocent Cambodian  killed under Le Duc Tho rule 
1979-1989 

As of today Vietnam continues to occupy Cambodia through the CPP/Hun Sen regime 
supported by China despite over 10 UN resolutions calling VIETNAM TO CEASE HER 
OCCUPATION AND REMOVE ALL HER TROOPS FROM CAMBODIA. 



Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2008 18:19:05 -0700From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Joe Biden: The 
Bad, The Good, And The Bad Again — I mean, And The Press.To: 
[email protected]






Biden’s record on choice is weak. He’s nominally pro-choice, but he supported 
the ban on so-called “partial birth” abortions, opposes public funding for 
abortion, and received a none-too-encouraging rating of 60% from NARAL last 
year. But what concerns me even more are his votes in favor of limiting the 
estate tax and “reforming” bankruptcy law. The bankruptcy bill, in particular, 
was an abomination, and his vote in favor of it was unconscionable. That bill 
will ruin peoples’ lives — in fact, I’m sure it has already. I’ve heard the 
rationale that since Biden is from Delaware, he’s “the senator from MBNA” by 
default, but I don’t buy that excuse. Does anyone really think Biden, who’s 
held his senate seat for longer than most Americans have been alive, would have 
suddenly become politically vulnerable if he’d voted differently? I doubt it. 
It’s not like opposing the bill would have been unpopular with the voters.
Then there’s a whole other issue — call it, the asshole factor. Biden is a 
hothead and a blowhard, and he’s well-known for his habit of making gaffes and 
unfortunate remarks. Here are some of his greatest hits:
(You’ll have to click through to Kathy’s to read the greatest hits!)
Meanwhile Ezra argues that the choice of Biden should please progressives:

For progressives, this is encouraging pick. More encouraging than Bayh, or 
Kaine, or even, in a way, Sebelius. More encouraging than picks who might have 
been more progressive, but less pugnacious. Elevating Biden suggests that the 
Obama campaign has decided to have an argument. Not try to win on momentum and 
inspiration and GOTV, but to engage, and win, an argument about which set of 
ideas is better for the future of the country. And in Biden, they’ve engaged at 
the point of greatest vulnerability and opportunity for Democrats: National 
security.
A political history of the past few years in Democratic politics is a history 
of the party’s failed attempts to dance away from foreign policy discussions. 
There was the Thomas Frank school of thought: Pivot from “national security to 
economic insecurity.” There was the George Lakoff approach: Reframe the 
language. There was the Kerry approach: “How can they be opening firehouses in 
Baghdad and closing them in Boise?” But even if these approaches had succeeded 
— they didn’t — they would still have bespoke long-term weakness in the 
Democratic Party: A fundamental inability to win arguments about American 
foreign policy.
A Democrat has not been elected during wartime in over 50 years. A healthy 
party cannot only prosper when the world is at peace and the waters are quiet. 
But seven years of Republican incompetence and failure have generated 
tremendous mistrust in the conservative foreign policy approach. Iraq was a 
historic blunder, Osama bin Laden is loose, America’s international standing is 
dismal. There’s an opening for Democrats to press the advantage, argue that 
they, in fact, have the better record, and the sounder ideas, on national 
security. But they have to actually engage the argument. They can’t hope that 
events will do the work for them. Picking Biden, the Obama campaign signaled 
that this is a project they want to take on, and a project they realize will 
have to be engaged affirmatively and aggressively.
I think both Kathy and Ezra make good cases, and in my usual wishy-washy 
fashion I agree with them both. But it’s D-Day who wrote something that had me 
screaming “yes! SO true!” at my computer monitor:1

Actually, who betrayed the public is you, the media, again, because you just 
couldn’t stand not being insiders for ten minutes and waiting out the pick and 
maybe using those resources of staking out potential candidates’ homes and 
working the phones on, I don’t know, illegal wars and torture. The press only 
breaks out their investigative skills every four years so they can scoop their 
competition by 20 seconds. Would it have killed them to embargo the story and 
let the campaign play it out the way they wanted? Would it have mattered to 
anyone?
This secret was so tantalizing to them, making it necessary to marshal the full 
resources of the American media, while eight years of secret government and 
secret law received no such attention. The discovery of the pick was an end in 
itself, justifying their clubby, insider self-images as the coolest kids in the 
room. And then, after they’ve undermined the rollout, they blame the candidate.
Curtsy: Auguste. (And see here for more well-earned press-bashing..)


Well, not really. But somewhere inside, I screamed it. (back)

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5 Responses to “Joe Biden: The Bad, The Good, And The Bad Again — I mean, And 
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Jeff Fecke Writes: August 23rd, 2008 at 12:51 pm 
Yes, yes, and yes. I’d like Biden to have voted against the soi disant partial 
birth ban, I’d like him to have voted in favor of marriage equality, I’d like 
him to be in favor of using taxpayer money on abortion. But he authored VAWA, 
he’s been consistently pro-choice on the central question of abortion, and he 
led the fight against Robert Bork. 
In short, he’s not perfect, but he’s not Joe Lieberman, either. And he got off 
enough good shots at McCain today that I think he’s going to be just fine.This 
comment was written by Jeff Fecke. Report this comment to the moderators  
Elkins Writes: August 23rd, 2008 at 3:19 pm 
I think it is evidence of how totally jaded I have become about politics that 
my very first reaction to hearing the news was something along the lines of: 
“Hahaha! Oh, excellent. Biden’s a laugh riot, and he makes the most appalling 
gaffes. This should make for great entertainment!”
Yes, it has come to this. I’ve so utterly lost hope that things will ever get 
better that all I want now from the political sphere is a steady stream of 
cheap yuks.This comment was written by Elkins. Report this comment to the 
moderators  
Tom T. Writes: August 23rd, 2008 at 3:28 pm 
I guess the war (which Biden voted for) is no longer even an issue?This comment 
was written by Tom T.. Report this comment to the moderators  
Pat Kight Writes: August 23rd, 2008 at 3:47 pm 
Two points:
1) While he may not be perfect on reproductive freedom, as a devout Roman 
Catholic he’s practically a radical (and miles better than damned near any 
Republican). 
2) For many of us, the war is still very much an issue. But which of the 
Senators who voted against it in 2002 would be a better choice for the ticket? 
I’ll give Biden this: He’s forthrightly admitted his vote was a mistake.
All things considered, I think he’s a smart choice, and would make good vice 
president.This comment was written by Pat Kight. Report this comment to the 
moderators  
Jeff Fecke Writes: August 23rd, 2008 at 4:13 pm 
He’s forthrightly admitted his vote was a mistake.
I’m sympathetic. I wasn’t exactly pro-war, but I wasn’t exactly anti-war, 
either. I should have been. I was wrong not to be. But I wasn’t. And had I been 
in office in 2002, I surely could have convinced myself to vote for the AUMF. 
And I would have been wrong.
I don’t have a problem with politicians being wrong. Politicians will be wrong. 
They’re humans, after all. I have a problem with politicians who don’t learn 
from being wrong. Biden was wrong — and admitted it, and said so, flatly. Yes, 
it would have been better if he was right in the first place — but since he 
wasn’t, he’s done the next best thing.

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